TO ALL CHRISTIANS, HINDUS, MUSLIMS, SECULARISTS, COMMUNISTS and all people who have a heart, who loves the nation and her heritage, who believes in ethics and values.
M.F.Hussain is trying to create problems between Hindus & Muslims.
He is trying to create communal tension and clashes. No true Musalman brother will do this, no true hindus or christians or true communists or any one who wants communal harmony, and hindu-muslim unity will not do this. Any responsible, nation loving Indian who understands India and its heritage will never do this.
"Greater the freedom, Higher the responsibility. M.F.Hussain should have used the freedom of expression in a much more responsible manner" - Maharashtra Court
I request you to go through these and react... React very strongly. Vande Mataram
(These are only some pictures, There are many more vulgar and obscene pictures, this is deliberate insult)
Hussain claims "Rape of India" is a response to terror attacks in Mumbai.
In America there were terrorist attacks, will he paint Rape of America ?
In Pakistan terrorist attacks happen twice every week, why doesnt he paint Gang Rape of Pakistan ?
Holy Mecca was attacked by terrorists once, will he paint Rape of Mecca ?
We consider India as holy as a temple, church or mosque. Thats why Mahatma Gandhiji
once installed "Bharat Matha Temple". We see Nation as Mother, as Goddess.
We cannot be too soft on either terrorits or anti national painters like Hussain.
Sita Matha and Sri Rama are the oldest symbols existing in this part of the continent. Is painting the private parts of Sita Devi justified in the name of freedom of expression. Hussain knows that painting these things will create controversy and get him publicity. But 'using' these sacred symbols for selling and getting publicity is cheap and cunning.
Hey Ram were the last words of Gandhiji. Rama Rajya to him was the ideal state where all people and religions lived in harmony. Rama was 'purushottama', the ideal man.
60 years of Independence is morally the journey from Mahatmaji's Ram and Sita to Hussain's Ram and Sita
Dear Brothers and Sisters, My name is Rahul Easwar.
I usually dont write blogs nor am I a person who is very much into internet. But for the the past some days I was very disturbed about the above pictures. I was extremely sad and depressed over the above pictures. How can we allow a person to insult national, historic and cultural symbols and be happy and okay about it ???
It is something concerning you, me our future generations and our nation as such.
Please protest this move by the Kerala Government. The above pictures offends the national pride, dignity of women, religious feeling, secular and ethical fabric of our nation.
Silence is golden, but not always; many a times it becomes a sin
React, for we all have mother, sister, wife and family.
Let us take a pledge on this great day, that these kind of hatred creating cultureless elements will not be tolerated.
LET US SAY THAT WITH PRIDE THAT No one will be allowed to disturb the moral, cultural and national fabric of the nation. May our hearts rise to the heavens on this Independence day and declare who ever insults national pride and our culture will not be spared.
I HAVE HEARD SOME PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL,
SO-CALLED "LIBERAL" COMMENTS SUPPORTING M.F.HUSSAIN . LET ME REMIND " NO PERSON IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS "LIBERAL" and "BROAD MINDED" about his own MOTHER, SISTER, WIFE and DAUGHTER..
I CHALLENGE ANY ONE TO BE "LIBERAL" about THEM
(with immense apologies to their family).
WE LOVE OUR NATION AND CULTURE HIGHER THAN OUR FAMILY AND OURSELVES...WHAT WILL WE DO IF SOME ONE PAINTS OUR FAMILY MEMBERS NUDE, SEX MANIAC and VULGAR ???
...WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO M.F.HUSSAIN ???
LET M.F.Hussain not receive the RAJA RAVI VARMA award on September 17th 2007
AND WE HAVE WON...Kerala High Court and Maharasthra Court came to uphold Justice, Hon'ble Kerala High Court stopped the award and Maharashtra court issued arrest warrant to Hussain
Jai Hind
1,364 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1364 Newer› Newest»Sapnaji...It is so UNFORTUNATE that u mix up things.
WHY ARE U INTOLERANT to such protests. Dont be a cultural police. Every one has freedom here to air their opinions and protest.
AND DONT READ SUPERFICIALLY AND COMMENT. "National Flag...raping"
please read precisely and accurately.
I was replying to JUMBO's comment on Hussains painting "Rape of India". I told these hurts the ethical sensibilities of the people.
NOW THE CASE OF MIXING UP...
See it is sad about the state of our women and many people working in the middle east.
BUT if my street is full of garbage, should I say "in middle east, our people are facing problem..first let it be sorted and then my street's garbage.
OUR ROADS ARE VIRTUALLY HELL. Road thodanu ennanu nattukar parennathu.
Can we say...1 billion people in the world is starving and dying out of hunger, so let us solve that first and then roads in Kerala.
Then Sapnaji..."if vehicles are causing a lot of air pollution, then can we say in Africa people have gas chambers, so atleast we have air. "
Street garbage is "material pollution", air problems are "atmosphere pollution"
things like Pornography, pervertedness, vulgarity are "cultural pollution".
all pollutions should be opposed.
Rahul,
Every one has the right to protest in a lawful manner. It is when people are spurring hated and calling for others to be killed and torching buses and inflicting material or physical harm that this freedom is misused.
Freedom is not a community, i am speaking for a value, while you are speaking for a community and that is a big difference.
Freedom is a value. What value? Is freedom in India same as freedom in America. Is freedom in India same as COmmunist totalitarian states. In each state 'freedom' and its definition changes. there is nothing called concrete concept of universal well defined freedom.
And Yes I speak for a community. That community is Indian cultural value based community. It is the soul of India. It is the heart and essence of India. It is India in its ancient definition - Asethuhimalaya.
From Himalaya to Sethu.
And the one thing that binds this multi-linguistic, multi-religious, multi-cultural, diverse nation is the underlying thread, the cultural unity, the indian ness. ANd only that Indianness can save us. It is up to people whether to see and interpret that communaly. I dont interpret it communaly. It was out nationhood, it is what we are and it will define what we will be.
And any 'cultural attack' on it will be defended, defended with the same patriotic passion a soldier is defending our motherland's boundary, for there are some boundaries that are as or sometimes more important than physical boundaries.
God bless India
Vandee Mataram
'And the one thing that binds this multi-linguistic, multi-religious, multi-cultural, diverse nation is the underlying thread, the cultural unity, the indian ness. ANd only that Indianness can save us. It is up to people whether to see and interpret that communaly. I dont interpret it communaly. It was out nationhood, it is what we are and it will define what we will be.'
Try Preaching Ramayana to the Tamils. Try telling them Ravana was evil and the whole facade of cultural unity falls down.
'And any 'cultural attack' on it will be defended, defended with the same patriotic passion a soldier is defending our motherland's boundary, for there are some boundaries that are as or sometimes more important than physical boundaries.'
If its within the laws of the nation and the freedom of the individuals your defense is bound to fail. And if you blindly believe that the Northies and Southies share the same culture you are blind. The Tamils and Southern states in general want the Ramar Setu project while the northies are against it.
Here's for a nation united by its democracy and not its cultural crap.
Dear Jumbo,
I didnt know Tamils where so against Ramayana that there is such an enemity for "north/south" divide.
Ya,very true. Periyor had it. He wrote Keemayana. and urged people to burn Ramayana because Ram is northie, aryan...where as Ravan is dravidian, southie, tamil
Yeh politicans bhi na,
Ravan Was a BRAHMIN!!!!!. Ravan was the son of Visrav
as. Ravan was fair skinned. and Ram was dark skinned. Some Brahmins in Ayodhya didnt attend Sri Rama pattabhishekam because Ram did Brahmana hatya" according to Valmiki.
Yet Rama was Arya, Ravan Dravida.
Perior's very name is "Rama" Swamy Naicker. The longest and most popular serving Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu was M.G."Rama" Chandran. Jayalalitha and Subrahmanaya Swamy, 2 famous tamils they are against Rama Sethu destruction.
Tamil nadu's tourist package is centered around Ramayana, and Sri Lanka's official tour package is called "Ramayana Package"
Yet Rama is anti-Tamil and Tamil anti- Ram. Oh Ram Ram....
Indian Geographical survey organistaion defines India as "ASETHU HIMACHALAM". FROM Himalaya to that Sethu, Ram Sethu...Yet Rama is untouchable for many.
Ram is in the soul of India, no one can deny that. And it is not only Ram, there is absorbtion of Buddhist, Christian, Islamic, Jain faiths into it.
Ramayana is taught in the educational institution of the largets Muslim nation, Indonesia. Thier currency has ganesha's picture in it. their national principle if Garuda Panchasila, their airways, Garuda airways. everything Related to Ramayana, for them Ram is Imam-e-hind. Yet Rama is communal, anti-muslim, northie here.Barack Hussain Obama carries a hanuman locket with him, May be Obama is a Baj rang dal worker in disguise.
Ram is the culture of south asia, and India being the place where Ram was born, the culture of our ancient India has deeply influenced us. And it is not only democracy, our great judiciary, also that great culture that binds us together..that culture which is the underlying unity among the diversity.
Hey Ram.
What a load of religiously biased trash. Your view of Ram is good for you and people like you. Keep it to yourself.
Ravanas ancestry and stuff is given in Ramayana anyways and not in southie texts. Anyway even the ASI submitted an affidavit claiming there is no archaeological evidence on the existence of Ram. Whatever you or the likes of you say Ramar Setu is going to be a reality.
Keep Northern Culture to the North. The South has its own culture which shares some values and not all with the North.
Namasthe Jumbo,
You said "religously loaded trash"...
This is intolerance. THis very intolerance will not get u any where and ur party. This is where we feel offended.
WHY DIDNT THE PARTY OPPOSE THE "RELIGIOUSLY LOADED TRASH WITH REGARDS TO TASLIMA"....
Will u dare use the word "religiously loaded trash" in regard to Islam, Christianity. Pinarayi is running from aramana to aramana in search of support. CPM is joining with PDP, whose Panchayat election contestant Abdul Jabbar was in Kashmir killing Indian soldiers.
Athoke "resistance, and Aduvu Nayam"...Because we Hindus dont have unity, any body can insult us, offend us, attack us. Dear brother, this is why moderate Hindus is getting closer with Hindu extremists.
NSS in 2003, didnt allow the Home Minister Advani to even get into Mannath Padmanabhan's samadhi calling Advani a communalist. THey didt go even to pay a visit to Vajpayee when PM was resting in Kumarakom.
Now WHy NSS is drfiting slowly towards Rss. Think abt it. It is the same old "religiously loaded trash"...
Why SNDP and Kerala Pulayar Maha Sabha is moving away from CPM...the same "religiously loaded trash"...there is a limit. and if you cross that lakshmana rekha...you will loose.
Have You read Ramayana.? If no please go and read it atleast for understanding sake. Ravana is according to SOuthie texts, son of Visravas, a Brahmin and a Shiva Bhakta. Go read and understand before commenting. There is no execuse for ignorance.
And Rama Sethu...For that to happen in the old alignment, Your petty strengths wil not be enough. Your party blabberings wont be enough. Your whole polit bureau will not be strong enough to do that. Neither the anti-Indian stance of Karunanidhi will be enough. BJP rose to rule India from 2 seats not because of their strength, but because of Ram. Sadly Ram is always attacked by anti-nationals and used by communalists....
ASI withdrew the affidavit and You might not know, Madras High Court opined that "Ram sethu seems to be man made"....
See Geographical survey of India...
India is from Himalaya to Ram Sethu...And From Kashmir to Kanyakumari we will defend our motherland from Pakistan, China and ideological myopic commies.
And we will win it.
Vandee Mataram
Rahul,
You are wasting your time with all the talk about the commies.
But as you said let the N.S.S and others join with extremists still the secular group will be bigger in number and you all will be defeated everytime. Talk to me when you can win an assembly vote in the Hindutva banner.
ASI withdrew it under political pressure. What knowledge does a judge have to comment on the make of Ramar Setu, the archaeologists are better learnt for that.
Have You read Ramayana.? If no please go and read it atleast for understanding sake. Ravana is according to SOuthie texts, son of Visravas, a Brahmin and a Shiva Bhakta. Go read and understand before commenting. There is no excuse for ignorance.
Yes as written in Ramayana right ? Is there any historic proof ? Is there any scientific evidence ? None...
Ramar Setu Project is coming, even if we have to fill the prisons with extremists. its coming.
Dear Jumbo...If you are calling for a opne fight. So be it. You commies simply dont have the number. We never want any kind of open fights, but intellectual and social dialouges ofcourse. But if u r urging for a fight, so be it. We will see it on the streets. Let us see Who has more power, Ram or Marx. If in case of real fighting, we dont prefer, but if u push us we dont mind.
We dont make bombs in the name of god, but dont consider that our weakness. some people is already alleged to have made it.
The point is that we are never Hindutva vaids. At one point of time, if the drama was "ningal enne communist aaki" now the drama or movie will be "ningal enne Hindutva vadi aaki" for I know, no one gives priority to this nation except them.
From Kashmir to Kanyakumari...You pseudo seculars dont bother. You wont bother even if this nation is bombarded tomorrow. You wont bother if Kashmir is invaded tomorrow. You wont bother if China and Pakistan makes plans against India. You wont bother if our soldiers are killed.
But you will bother if some thing happens to Palestinians, IF Saddam is hanged, there is hartal, but if some problem in my motherland happens, you give it second priority.
And it is ur in depth ignorance that makes a comment "WHAT DOES A JUDGE KNOW"?
Dear brother, dont be childish. Judge doesnt give verdict and opinions based on his personal faith. It was an obervation after hearing the case of RAM SETHU. and Tamil Nadu govt and archaeological survey there, gave a stand suggesting that Ram Sethu has natural and man made features.
And the Chief of Coast Guard said "Sethu Samudram Project can cause security concerns and chances of Tamil Tigers using that route is more"...
It has environmental issues. Security concerns, archaeological and historical concerns, Tsunami's related issues, large thorium deposits....You are over looking all these issues.
And all the actions that cause problems to our nation will be opposed..Even if all the pseudo secular, pseudo liberal, pseudo intellectual people are not giving priority to out nation, we will.
And sadly you see it in political angle. It is not about Secular, Hindutva or Leftism...It is about India...
Rahul,
Your vision of India where Ram is treated as a common Icon will never come to fruition. As for the judges case, there have been many mistakes made by our honorable judiciary, I will take the word of ASI over any judge.
I am not a communist and for one this does not have to be an open clash or street fight. Our country has rule of law and have mechanisms like the Police and if needed the Military to petrol the streets and prevent riots and violence.
So this dream about a Hindu India or an India which is identified with Ram is just your fantasy.
For one look at the Hindutva vadis beaten badly in Rajasthan and Delhi.There is no excuse for being a Hindutva Vadi.
So the liberals are driving you towards extremism, then please be and extremist, still nothing will change here. Our democracy is strong enough to repel any extremism.
YOU SAID "For one look at the Hindutva vadis beaten badly in Rajasthan and Delhi.There is no excuse for being a Hindutva Vadi."
That shows ur opportunistic stand. And remember I dont stand for any idea either because it is profitable or political good for me.
When I go for programs of Hindutva vadis, I am criticised that I am "Overly secular"...I dont believe and want India to be "Hindu Rashtra". It was not, is not and will not be like that. Even if some people try to make it so, Trust me I will be definitely against it with all my might. I dont want India to be Hindu Rashtra, BUT I DONT WANT THE PSEUDO LIBERALS to forget that this is Hindustan. All religions from time immemorial called our motherland Hindustan, its culture is its essence.
And When moderate Hindus think about having friendship with extremists becoz of pseudo secular group, then trust me it will spill trouble. If NSS & SNDP along with KPMS, Bramin Sabhas....From Adivasi to Ambalavasi, from Namboothiri to Nayadi if they join trust me, it will change the entire fabric..Dont force us to do, the loss will be for secularism.
Rahul,
Hindustan did not get its name because of the Hindu religion. The word actually has Persian origins.
'And When moderate Hindus think about having friendship with extremists becoz of pseudo secular group, then trust me it will spill trouble. If NSS & SNDP along with KPMS, Bramin Sabhas....From Adivasi to Ambalavasi, from Namboothiri to Nayadi if they join trust me, it will change the entire fabric..Dont force us to do, the loss will be for secularism.'
Please do so and see what happens. For one a few like you here and there cannot talk most of the secular moderate Hindus into a big united chunk with a united majority agenda. For your info the SNDP and the Muslim League agree with most things than SNDP and NSS.
This is how people come to conclusion when they study history partially.
PERSIA (IRAN) was a part of our civilization from time immemorail. The very word "Iran" is from the Aryan. check the Iran offical website. Almost from Iran to Singapore, it was common civilization. Thats why Singapore is originally simhapura. Check out whether this is propaganda or facts based on history. I challenge you.
And FOR YOUR INFO...
I have personal and friendly relations with Sree. Vellappaly Nateshan and Sir, and we have discussed these matter many times. The issue where NSS & SNDP have problems is about reservation. That is precisely why communal reservations are there, to divide hindus. The old British tactics, effectively employed by cheap politicians...Divide and Rule. Who did British divide? WHo are the politicans now dividing. they want vote banks, they divide people for that.
One day our people, our land will see through the designs of evil political plans, and then they will realise these acts, litreature, history, school text books, are all meant to divide them, so that they never achieve unity.
(and for ur info, I have very good realtions with League too, they supported us a lot in the Hussain Campaign)
You wait and see dear...How Secular moderate Hindus like me, because we are treated badly, because we are exploited, because we are deliberately divided, because we are not respected for the lack of unified vote banks, because no political party cares for us, Will wake up one day, and the era changes, changes for ever. We then too will be secular, moderate, all accepting, nationalistic, and Unified. Vandee Mataram
Rahul.
You know nothing of history, you just use it as a tool for arguement, Iran was never part of India, the civilizations were different, but due to foriegn contacts, trade and conquests we can see the Archaemenid and Parthian influence in our culture. Later we can also see Greek influence. But this has never altered our identity so dramatically so as to call the cultures the same.
For eg. We can see that in the north western parts of ancient India, the sculptures have Perisan influence. The Asoka Pillars also retain the Persipolitan bell. But to say that Iran or Persia and India had the same culture is utter tosh. The Aryan tree was split into many groups and they inhibit Europe, Central Asia and India, so do they all have the same culture ?
I asked you before whether know one of the ancient gods mentioned in the Rig Veda, as you are a brahmin. The god Dayus is almost identical to the Greek god Zeus, they almost have the same attributes and these were later passed on to Indra. Does this mean Greece and India have the same culture ?
Do you know during the time of the Nanda kings of Magadha, the structures here were largely of wood and there are only verly little evidence of large complex buildings. It was during this time that Alexander Sacked Babylon the Capital of Persia. The biggest city in the world at the time with grand structures. And the Indians at the time were as a civilization lagging behind the Persians.
If you take your study of History seriously you will realize that after the first Urbanization of Harappa, which was unrivaled around the world in many aspects, there was a decline and after the decline the second Urbanization, this second Urbanization how-ever did not reach the grand scales of their contemporaries till the time of the Guptas.
Your personal relations with Mr. Natesan or anyone for that matter is of no concern to me. Sri Narayana Guru asked the Ezhavas to stop toddy tapping and stop drinking and yet the SNDP is now headed by a liquor king. That is the irony in this world. But besides that he is a very able leader. I am with he SNDP on the reservation issue, economic status alone do not dictate education. Many of the Muslims and Ezhavas remain lagging behind the Nairs and other castes when it comes to higher education and reservation is needed to rectify this.
Rahul, if you have good relations with people, that is good for you, but for me you are like an opportunist siding with different sides on different issues to see your name in the lime light.
And about your change philosophy, you can keep the change, and let me know when you want to wake up from your ultra national delusion.
enthoru nalla nadakatha swapnam, rahul! he ehe h
jumbo man,
finally the truth is out!
"But besides that he is a very able leader. I am with he SNDP on the reservation issue, economic status alone do not dictate education. Many of the Muslims and Ezhavas remain lagging behind the Nairs and other castes when it comes to higher education and reservation is needed to rectify this."
why people howl over issues like this because they infact are part of it.i belong to the so-called forward community...i can proudly tell...iam a nair.you know the problem of nairs,brahmins and christians in kerala?they are a minority[wrongly framed as majority]One bishop rightly proclaimed...if we have the power to procreate more,we should increase our population.otherwise,we will be butchered in the near future.who wants our votes?here anything and everything is based on castes and religion.so why not we?when we speak,it becomes fascism and "savarna hindutwam".when every other castes demands for more reservation,it becomes the resistance against the very old injustice...ha ha ...after 58 years of revenge these blood sucking maniacs are still thirsty...take man...take 100% reservation...if not possible,make constitutional amendments...you people can believe in your CM,right?havent you seen the caste wise list in PSC jobs obtained through RTI act?70% of jobs in government sector are occupied by the so called OBCs.if you have any doubt,go and see it.it was published in matrubhumi news paper.India is ruined from head to foot by these corrupt politicians and their fellow caste leaders.no way out...either be a vote bank or perish!
regarding your new findings on hinduism,aryan culture and indian history...no other apt word can be used...ABSURD!
you are saying that persian and greek cultures had nothing to do with indian culture..may i repeat your question...what is the proof?have you seen jesus?have you seen him walking over water and healing a blind man.but we still believe in him.whats the proof?asking proof for anything and everything will not make you a genius.or you write your own book on indian history and proclaim your utopian findings...we can wait for a best seller...
what you studied in history is just history.no scientific proof.They are just interpretations of those remnants which varies according to the political deviance of the interpreter.dont mix history with science and make us believe that those theories you are putting forward are truths.they are just theories...like a coin they all have two sides.
people like you are the flag bearers of caste and religious divide.you people want reservations forever so that hindus wont unite.you people question RAMA's existance because you want to uproot hinduism for political and personal gains.Through karunanidhis' dark spectacles you people see a bright future.but beware...till my last breath,we will fight to unify the hindus and by advocating reservations based on economic status,i will try to ensue there is equality in oppurtunity and uproot the caste system.
Pegasus,
'why people howl over issues like this because they infact are part of it.i belong to the so-called forward community...i can proudly tell...iam a nair.you know the problem of nairs,brahmins and christians in kerala?they are a minority[wrongly framed as majority]One bishop rightly proclaimed...if we have the power to procreate more,we should increase our population.otherwise,we will be butchered in the near future.who wants our votes?here anything and everything is based on castes and religion.so why not we?when we speak,it becomes fascism and "savarna hindutwam".when every other castes demands for more reservation,it becomes the resistance against the very old injustice...ha ha ...after 58 years of revenge these blood sucking maniacs are still thirsty...take man...take 100% reservation...if not possible,make constitutional amendments...you people can believe in your CM,right?havent you seen the caste wise list in PSC jobs obtained through RTI act?70% of jobs in government sector are occupied by the so called OBCs.if you have any doubt,go and see it.it was published in matrubhumi news paper.India is ruined from head to foot by these corrupt politicians and their fellow caste leaders.no way out...either be a vote bank or perish!'
I have replied to the issues of reservation and comments like this in the past and I do not wish to repeat myself.
'regarding your new findings on hinduism,aryan culture and indian history...no other apt word can be used...ABSURD!
you are saying that persian and greek cultures had nothing to do with indian culture..may i repeat your question...what is the proof?have you seen jesus?have you seen him walking over water and healing a blind man.but we still believe in him.whats the proof?asking proof for anything and everything will not make you a genius.or you write your own book on indian history and proclaim your utopian findings...we can wait for a best seller...
what you studied in history is just history.no scientific proof.They are just interpretations of those remnants which varies according to the political deviance of the interpreter.don't mix history with science and make us believe that those theories you are putting forward are truths.they are just theories...like a coin they all have two sides.'
My new findings. All these things are based on literary and archaeological facts, researched up on by several scholars and the source material are still there if you want to do your own research. There is historic proof about Jesus bu his divinity may be a subject of debate depending on your beliefs. Likewise many historians agree that Krishna was actually a living person and a great diplomat, but like Jesus' his divinity is debatable depending on the religion of beliefs. About Ram on the other hand there has been no such proofs or claims. Like I said your attacks on communism and Christianity do not matter one little bit for me.
Do you know anything about modern theories of historiography ? History is increasingly reliant on scientific methods and archaeological findings. And many of these are on the public realm you can choose to look at these original works and evidence yourself and reach your own conclusion.
'people like you are the flag bearers of caste and religious divide.you people want reservations forever so that hindus wont unite.you people question RAMA's existance because you want to uproot hinduism for political and personal gains.Through karunanidhis' dark spectacles you people see a bright future.but beware...till my last breath,we will fight to unify the hindus and by advocating reservations based on economic status,i will try to ensue there is equality in oppurtunity and uproot the caste system.'
I respect your determination to fight for a losing cause. I do the same thing fighting you here for liberalism. But being pragmatic I have little faith to make you understand the virtues of a society based on freedom and democratic values and you can be rest assured that since the majority of India are in the reservation category and with both fronts (BJP and Congress) playing caste politics. There is no chance of reservation going away anytime soon.
Dear Rahul,
Pegasus says "who wants our votes?here anything and everything is based on castes and religion.so why not we?when we speak,it becomes fascism and "savarna hindutwam"."
I want your clarification on this. He says 'We' and he is supporting your view. So do you belong to or represent, Indians (as you claimed initially), or Hindus or just sawarna Hindus, I mean Nairs, Brahmins, etc ? is that your stand ?
and one question to pegasus. BJP and other right wing hindutva parties ruled the country a few years back. Why was reservation not removed, or not even a bill was moved to reduce that ? Do you think if they come to power they are going to do what u said ?
no way boss.. this is all misconception. right wing groups want you people to talk and talk about hinduism and religion and ram sethu so that they can divide people and get their votes done and remain in power. in some places it works, sometimes (and most often so) it fails like we saw just now.
Vinod,
What you have said is very true. Remember the last BJP government in Rajasthan, they offered SC status to Gujjars in their election manifesto and failed to implement it leading to agitations and now eventual defeat.
Dear Vinod, Jumbo, Pegasus
Dear Vinod,
One thing is very clear from the above posts, See the clash of Pegasus who identifies as Nair and Jumbo as a beneficiary of Reservation.
Their clashes, the antagonism, are sadly but cleverly fabricated by political parties. I am not giving my opinion, I will give it at the and. I will state some facts and observations.
In Kerala, the Polarisation is Nair/Nasrani,Congress along with the so-called uppercaste Brahmins
and Ezhava, Muslim, KPMS, communist on the other side
This polarisation has been made because of historical reasons and clever political manipulations.
In 1960s when NSS & SNDP, under Mannath Padmanabhan and R.Shankar decided to form "Hindu Maha Mandalam", every other party panicked. It will alter the very face of congress, communist politics. So rightly or wrongly, Christian community was made use to take away NSS from Sndp and Muslim, 'Dalit' Plank was used to take away SNDP.
Our cheap politicans succeeded then.
The idea of NSS-SNDP Unity is not new, neither started with Sri.Vellappally (many people 'accuse' him of that')or Sri.Panicker.
Mannath says in his autobiography, some foolishly conservative Brahmins, some short sighted Nairs, some short sighted Ezhavas caused the breakage of alliance, they were very cleverly used by the then politicians who feared unity and wanted the 'divide & rule' policy.
Sri R Shankar also supports this stand.
Dear Vinod,I humbly go by their opinion of the great Mannath-Shankar duo in the social sphere and the great Sri Narayana Guru-Sri Chattambi Swamikal Duo in the spiritual field.
And Vinod, the tragedy of our motherland, India is that, we fall prey to division easily. Remember the very word Savarna, Avarna, Dravida, Dalit were not at all a part of Indian vocabulary !!!
They were clever 'constructs' by Britishers and later politicians who wanted people to unite some and divide some.
For eg: Robert Cadwell in 1856 coined and popularised the term "Dravida" in the present form. NOW THE JOKE IS THAT THE DIVIDING POLITICAL PARTIES SAY "Dravida was attacked and destroyed by Aryans in BC 1500"!!!
The term "Dalit" was used in 1930's as a term to denote the depressed people.'Dalit' never had political bias or never was a loaded word. It just meant a person, remeber a person who 'is helpless'.
Now the Political "DALIT" has come and Mayavatiji wants to be the DALIT prime minister. How can a Prime minister be a Dalit, or how can a Dalit be a Prime Minister.
When a person becomes PM, he ceases to be a Dalit, When a person becomes CM, She ceases to be Dalit. When a person becomes politically powerful, economically well off, socially accepted, educationally good...He is no more a Dalit. A Dalit is one irrespective of caste, religion, poltics...'a helpless man, an oppressed man, oppressed by his living conditions, he needs help'
He needs help not to become Prime Minister of India, he needs help to have meals 2 times a day, sleep peacefully, get atleast old clothes to wear. But sadly in India 'Dalit' doesnt want all these, it is a political tool to divide the Majority.
DEAR VINOD, JUMBO is childish, he is intelligent but living in Alice in Wonderland. He will soon realise, that all his left fancies are nothing but political indoctrinations he was injected.
My stand is of Gandhiji, "India in future should not fight in the name of caste, language, religion, ethnicity, region...they should be one and all factors promoting the ideas of division should be regarded anti-national"
If we had Mahatma Gandhiji, iam sure he would have atleast staged an unsuccessful Satyagraha against politicisation and vote bank isation of caste & religion.
Vandee Mataram
Rahul,
It is you who want to live in Alice's wonderland or Utopia now. Anyone who is looking at your posts will realize that.
Tell your definition of 'Dalit' to the Bihari untouchables who are severely discriminated upon and beaten by the upper castes.
Sadly you live in Kerala a state which has made considerable strides towards economic parity between the castes. And because of that you cannot see that caste based oppression is happening elsewhere in India.
Your vision is narrow, impractical and false in the national context.
What has the unity of Communal groups of Kerala achieved. Apart from using the central government to dismiss the state government which had the majority mandate. Its still a dark stain in the history of Kerala.
Dear JUMBO,
HOW LONG WIL U LIE? OR TURN A BLIND EYE TOWARDS REALITIES?
First understand the issue in Bihar. DONT EXAGGERATE AND OVER SENTIMENTALISE the issues. The issue was between Ranvir Sena and the Naxals. Naxals were using the Dalit plank to attack and kill people who oppose their ideologies.
AND THERE IS NO ONE CALLED DALIT IN INDIA. THERE IS NO COMMUNITY CALLED DALIT COMMUNITY. THERE IS NO DALIT.THERE IS NO DALIT. THERE IS NO DALIT. Dalit is only a term. A term used for political manipulations of division as DRAVIDIAN.
Brother, You have been injected and brainwashed by political propagandas. I was in North India for half a decade. AND THE FUNNIEST PROPAGANDA IN NORTH INDIA IS THAT DALITS are DISCRIMINATED IN KERALA, THey quote Vivekananda to say KERALA IS A LUNATIC ASYLUM. AND THEY CLAIM IN TAMIL NADU DALITS ARE DISCRIMINATED>
YOU CAN GO ON CLAIMING THAT DALITS ARE TORTURED. NO ONE WILL EITHER SUPPORT OR REFUTE. BECAUSE THERE IS NO DALIT TO EITHER SUPPORT OR NOR HAS ANY ONE SEEN A DALIT BEING DISCRIMINATED. SO THERE WILL NEVER BE SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR THERE IS NO DALIT.
YOU ARE ARGUING THE DISCRIMINATION OF A BLACK CAT IN A DARK ROOM, IN WHICH IT IS NOT THERE. SO YOU CAN GO ON SHEDDING TEARS FOR THE NON EXISTANT DALIT....SO MEDIOCRE PEOPLE AND POLITICIANS MAY ALSO BELIEVE YOU.
Nobody has the right to denigrade any religion. And it is highly blasphemous and seditious for anyone belonging to a particular religion to paint pictures of another religion which has the effect of denigrading the dieties of that other religion. Hussain has been doing this time and again and getting away with it. He needs to be arrested, tried, convicted and severely punished. Psued-secularists are people who are neither here nor there; and being in-between, they end up as miserables. All of them have a kink in their brain. This was evident in Burkha Dutt's coverage of the Mumbai encounter between the NSG and the terrorists. Knowingly or unwittingly, through her high-pitched voice, she was spreading panic, anger, and chaos. So much for Burkha Dutt and her flock. Her behaviour was unbecoming of a senior journalist of her standing. But then, again, that is what journalism is about -- creating and spreading hype and sensation. As for Hussain, he cant go on with his licentious and blasphemous painting habits, which clearly reflect his motivation to intensify hatred between muslims and Hindus and also insulting religious sentiments. You cant paint to insult Hindu culture and call it "freedom of expression." So such ludicrous freedom exists anywhere. Hussain needs to be stop his nefarious painting habits forthwith. The Indian government owes it to Indians to stop Hussain.
kalakaranu samskaram illenkil athu vikalamavum..for eg. M.F.hussain
kalakaranu samskaram illenkil athu vikalamavum..for eg. M.F.hussain
Rahul,
Typing in Caps won't make it the way you want it to be. There are Dalits in India 'whatever the origin of the word may be' and they are severely discriminated against. If you don't like the word call them some other name. Don't go into semantics to win an arguement.
dear jumbo,
"My new findings. All these things are based on literary and archaeological facts, researched up on by several scholars and the source material are still there if you want to do your own research. There is historic proof about Jesus bu his divinity may be a subject of debate depending on your beliefs. Likewise many historians agree that Krishna was actually a living person and a great diplomat, but like Jesus' his divinity is debatable depending on the religion of beliefs. About Ram on the other hand there has been no such proofs or claims. Like I said your attacks on communism and Christianity do not matter one little bit for me"
You were asking proof for anything and everything and iam asking how history provided those proofs regarding these great men?about Rama you are saying no proofs,but about krishna there is!what a captivating theory!can you tell me about those scholars who found out these proofs by using carbon dating or DNA analysis?our science has not grown to make time machines.what we are asked to believe are those facts and stories the so called historians and disciples provide.MANY HISTORIANS BELIEVE!so everyone should believe in them? And how come iam attacking a community by asking for a proof of miracles? i believe in his greatness and his kindness.if you think that as an attack,then what are you doing against hinduism?
" Do you know anything about modern theories of historiography ? History is increasingly reliant on scientific methods and archaeological findings. And many of these are on the public realm you can choose to look at these original works and evidence yourself and reach your own conclusion."
YA,IAM NOT AWARE OF THESE NEW TRICKS IN HISTORY.i call it DISTORTION FOR SELFISH NEEDS.when a person comes up with new theories like ravana being an embodiment and martyr of dravida culture and rama a 'WHITE ARYAN AGGRESSOR',he becomes famous and he is invited all over india by pseudo-secular clowns.History is based on such conclusions and distorted facts.
"I respect your determination to fight for a losing cause. I do the same thing fighting you here for liberalism. But being pragmatic I have little faith to make you understand the virtues of a society based on freedom and democratic values and you can be rest assured that since the majority of India are in the reservation category and with both fronts (BJP and Congress) playing caste politics. There is no chance of reservation going away anytime soon."
i may be fighting a losing battle.thanks for sympathizing.but actually it is amusing to mud -wrestle with these anti-hindu pigs.the majority of india is in the reservation catagory...yes tomorrow more and more communities will be added.70% in tamil nadu 80% in rajastan...and going on and on.the parties,whichever it be thinks that by dividing hindus on the basis of caste -reservation,they can go on cash on their votes.but that wont last long.A change will come and i will be happy to be a part of it.AND BATTLE IS FOR MEN!so please dont worry.
MR.VINOD,
WHAT CLARIFICATION DO YOU WANT?If iam supporting some of the views of Rahul,that doesnt mean iam his parrot.i said my opinion and by 'we',i meant my community.when iam denied anything i deserve,cant i raise my voice?.
I have told my opinion many times...iam not a BJP activist and am not advocating for a hindu rule in india.i believe in equality.It cannot be gained by providing reservations.money is the major divide,atleast in kerala.see the benefit of being a sceduled tribe is enjoyed by very few influential and wealthy families in kerala,while the whole majority of tribes in wayanad,idukki are living in the dark.give the power,the jobs and education to the poor ,not on the basis of caste and religion,but on the basis of their wealth.That is the way to bring hindus together.but that wont happen in near future as people,for political and private needs want to see people divided.
The question is which will you prefer"the demon or the sea?".i prefer the sea because atleast i can die drinking...
~~vezhaambkezhum venal kudeeram nee...~~~~ la la la la l
It was energy for fighting against this type of fools. "Snagadiku Hindu Bharatha Samsakarathinai" Bharth Matha Ki Jai
Early in my school days I used to see some urchins having entered the holy precincts of school draw naked, lewd pictures of men, women, and both together, and then extend this abnormal creativity to desecrate Gods and idols, temples,... whatever has come to be treated as normal, and venerated and worshipped, by human civilization. MF Hussain is just one of these nongrowing urchins. He deserves punishment like that other Hussein of Iraq.
It has become a phenomenon for failures in every field - art, cinema, politics, ... - to use as the cheapest means to a false sense of success, maybe making mountains of money in the process, to do some absolutely outlandish, unbelievably antisocial or antinational, or the like. There are takers of such contemptible stuff - like publishers for salacious or subversive writing or piece of shitty drawing - like publishers who make books out of them and tap the subaltern market since there is always a longing deeply embedded in the human psyche for such stuff paying a small price. The question is how we can curb this phenomenon before it corrupts society to any substantial extent ? Or are we to simply to resign to the fact, rationalizing that this is just one abominable feature of the maturing Kali Yug ?
sho! enikku vayya! veedana ! enthoru veedana!
I have no doubt about M F Hussains initials M & F. If u put a thought into it u can expand M & F quickly..So Yes if he can paint these picture and our mother land like this he is really M...F....Hussain
I have no doubt about M F Hussains initials M & F. If u put a thought into it u can expand M & F quickly..So Yes if he can paint these picture and our mother land like this he is really M...F....Hussain
hussain mf ayikotte prasanthe! nee enthina ayale ulinju nokkan pookunne? why are you peePing prasanth?
Ningal uddeshikunna M F?
ഇവനെ ഇവിടുന്നു തല്ലി ഓടിക്കാനാരുമില്ലെ?????????നാട്ടില് പ്രാരാബ്ധം,ഗവണ്മെന്റിന്റെ നല്ല നടപ്പു കാരണം കുഴിയില്/ഓടയില് കാലൂതെറ്റി ആളുകള് നടവഴിയില് വീണുപോകുന്നു, ആള്ക്കരുടെ കാല് കുഴിയില് റോഡില്/നടവഴിയില് കുടുങ്ങുന്നു....കേരളത്തിലേക്കൊന്നു തിരിഞ്ഞു നൊക്കെന്റെ മോനേ രാഹുലെ?? എം എഫ് ഹുസ്സെയിന്റെ പെയിംറ്റിംഗ് ശരിയല്ലപോലും?????????
swapnalokathe rahulanmarude oru prathinindhi aanu manushyaputhraa prasanth! avan MF hussiane theriyaa viliche!baaratha samskaram! ha ah ah!
dear rahul,
what you have done is a very good job.whenever these ocps[obsessed communist pigs] got a venue,a platform, they sympathized for MF.they used him as a weapon to attack BJP.[like what they r now doing with karkare].now the truth lies open.
You may be proud of being an indian,but iam not.Our rotten politics,the coward and corrupt government officials and these cultureless barbarians have made this place look hell.but being born a hindu and believing in it,we must not tolerate this brutal attack on our religion.thanks for providing this platform...
പ്രിയപ്പെട്ട സ്വപ്നാ മേഡം,
താല്പര്യമില്ലെന്കില് ഈ ബ്ലോഗിലെത്തി സമയം കളയണമെന്നില്ല... പിന്നെ കേരളം ഇന്ഡ്യയില് തന്നെ ആണെന്ന കാര്യവും മേഡം മറന്നു പോകുന്നു... കേരളത്തിലെ കാര്യങ്ങള് കഴിഞ്ഞിട്ടാകാം ഭാരതത്തിലെ എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞത് വായിച്ച് എനിക്ക് പുശ്ചമാണ് തോന്നിയത്...(വേറെ പലര്ക്കും തോന്നിയിട്ടുണ്ടാകും പക്ഷെ പ്രകടിപ്പിക്കാതിരിക്കുന്നതാകും)
ഒരു കാര്യം കൂടി "ആരാന്റ്റമ്മക്ക് തല്ലുകൊള്ളുന്നത് കാണാന് നല്ല ചന്തം..." എന്നും ഞാന് കേട്ടിട്ടുണ്ട്... മനസിലായിക്കാണുമല്ലോ???
i am proude of you rahul you are a real indian.and every person of india should think about this pictures .
Jettiyidaatha nilkunna raavanan, maaru maraykkaatha seetha, poorna nagna aayi nilkunna Ffaarathamaathaavu ithokke varachaal idinju veezhunnathaano Bhaaratha Samskaaram?
Dear Sapna Ma'm
Your tactics is an age old tactics to divert attention. Ofcourse roads, slabs, poverty, unemployment are problems. Did any one deny? ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING FOR THAT
Yesterday in our functin Vivek Oberoi inaugurated 1000 health cards for below poverty line children. We are doing a lot of national service.
It is for the poor, and also for the nation. People like u divert the attention from matter by using other arguments.
It is unbecoming of a mature person to do so and try to divert the attention. That doesnt change the matter. Every matter has its own importance and every matter should be discussed.
83.6 crore of Indians live under Rs 20 a day, so does that mean we should not go to moon and have a Chandrayan. please dont raise rubbish diverting tactics
Poocha is childish enough to ignore.
Then usually people ask "if some one draw 'a naked Bharat Matha' or a 'Sita having sexual feelings to Hanuman'
WIll Indian culture fall down, will Bharat Matha get destroyed?
It is a nice, but not falsifiable argument, the argument appears good, but only superficially.
Suppose if this happens to the pseudo liberals here, if some one takes their sister's photo and morphs it into vulgar, naked and compromising photo..Will u react?
Why should u react? Will u sister's culture fall down if such a photo happens, will ur families culture fall down if that photo is made?
Here the question is of understanding sensitivites of a nation, sensibilities of our people. These pseudo liberals wont understand as they dont have the love, patriotism, commitment, or the concept of motherland.
And please remember if u dont listen to our sensibilities, we wont return the favour....
I hope in a pluralistic society, we all should have mutual respect. right? If not we can fight it out, either in words or in streets. We respect all, BUT LET IT BE CLEAR THAT NO ONE WILL BE TOLERATED who goes against the interest of out Motherland. Vandee Mataram
Rahul,
Actually those words are not mine, you please refer to a comment by renjith-times.
thankoooooo rahul! njaan allelum oru shishuvine poole nirmalanaa!
enthaaanu nammude samskaram? eethaanu nammude mother land? kottayathe oru private hospital aanu ente mother land! athilum vishalamaayittu paranjaal ktm! athulum vishalam ayaaal, keralam, athilum vishaalamayaal, india! athilum vishalamaayaal lookam! ayooo enikku vayyaa!
pls vattakalle rahule! hussian oru painting cheythennu vicharichu nammude mother land marinju veenu marikkumoooo?
ellaam mail aayittu kittunundu! kutti rahul delete cheythathellaam koodi oru book irakkaan shrimikkum njaan! ithu satyam satyam satyam!
satyam pottyooo?
Satyathil, Satyathil enthaanu sambhavichathu? Aarenkilum Satyam parayumo?
POOCHA said it
he told "kottayathe oru private hospital aanu motherland"
What else can I add. Those who consider private hospitals their motherland, what else can we expect from them.
We all consider India as our motherland. we all are born in hospitals, does that mean hospitals are our motherland. These Pseudos are one problem india is facing. Thier immature and amateur logic,
God save them
Vandee Mataram
Poocha,
Check Gandhi Blog for Gopalan opinion. Ini muthal ivida comment cheyaam.
Rahul,
"Yesterday in our functin Vivek Oberoi inaugurated 1000 health cards"
Could you please explain the benefits of such a Health Card? I'm serious.
daa rahule, nee njaan paranjathu onnu nallonam read cheyy! ha ah ah
ninakku athinte irony pidikitteella alle? whats kind of pottans are living in our mother land!
home land anoo, motherland anoo, athoo fatherland anoo sheri?sho enikku onnum pidikittunilla!
Dear Poocha & Manushyaputhran...
Will you please stop your nonsense?? Don't make your self a Fool or Idiot...
Rahul let them write any comments... കാരണം ഭാവിയില് പൂച്ച ഒരുപക്ഷെ പറഞ്ഞേക്കാം എന്നെ സൃഷ്ടിച്ചത് അച്ചനും അമ്മയുമല്ല ഒരു ബീജവും അണ്ഡവും ആണ് അതുകൊണ്ട് ഇപ്പോള് ഞാന് വിളിക്കുന്ന അമ്മയും അച്ചനും എന്റെ ആരുമല്ല എന്നൊക്കെ...
എവരുടെ വാക്കുകള്ക്ക് മറുപടി പറയാന് തുടങ്ങിയാല് ഇവിടെ നടക്കുന്ന ചര്ച്ചകള് വേറെന്തൊക്കേയോ ആയിപ്പോകും...
പിന്നെ മനുഷ്യപുത്രാ... രാഹുല് പറഞ്ഞതുപോലെ സ്വന്തം സഹോദരിയേയോ അമ്മയേയോ മോര്ഫിംഗ് വഴി നഗ്നയായി ചിത്രീകരിക്കുകയോ ചിത്രങ്ങള് പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിക്കുകയോ ചെയ്താല് ഒരുപക്ഷെ താന്കള്ക്ക് ഒരു വികാരവും ഉണ്ടായെന്ന് വരില്ല പക്ഷെ എല്ലാരും അങ്ങയെ പോലാണെന്ന് മാത്രം തെറ്റിധരിക്കരുതേ... ഒരു അപേക്ഷയാണ്...
ജയ് ഹിന്ദ്...
മോനേ... രതീഷ് കുമാര് തങ്കപ്പമോനേ,
രാഹുള് പറഞ്ഞതു പോലെ എന്റെ അമ്മയുടെയോ(she died last year), സഹോദരിയുടെയൊ (സ്വന്തം സഹോദരി ഇല്ല, തല്ക്കാലം നിന്റേത് കടം എടുത്തു) ചിത്രം ഒരാള് Digitaly Distort ചെയ്താല് എനിക്കു ചിലപ്പോള് ആ വ്യക്തിയോടു വിദ്വേഷം ഉണ്ടാകാം, പക്ഷേ, നിന്റെ സഹോദരിയെ നന്നായി അറയുന്നവര് ഈ കാണുന്നതൊന്നും വിശ്വസിക്കില്ല, കാരണം നിന്റെ സഹോദരി അത്തരക്കാരി അല്ലാ എന്നു എല്ലാവര്ക്കും അറിയാം. അല്ലേ???
പക്ഷേ മഖ്ബൂല് ഫിദ ഹുസെയ്ന് എന്ന M.F.Husain ഇവിടെ നിറങ്ങള് കൊണ്ടു കോറിയിട്ടിരിക്കുന്നതു രാഹുളിന്റെയൊ, പൂച്ചയുടെയൊ, എന്റെയോ, നിന്റെയോ, നിന്റെ അമ്മേടെ... ചിത്രങ്ങളോ അല്ല. അതുകൊണ്ട് അമ്മേം പെങ്ങളേം ഇതിലേയ്ക്കു വലിച്ചിഴക്കേണ്ട ആവശ്യം വരുന്നില്ല. രാഹുള് ഈ dialogue ഇറക്കുന്നതിന്റെ ഉദ്ദെശ്യം ശ്രദ്ദ തിരിക്കല് മാത്രം ആയിട്ടേ എനിക്കു തോന്നുന്നുള്ളൂ.
ആയിരത്തോളം വര്ഷങ്ങള്ക്കു മുന്പ് ഇവിടങ്ങളില് പ്രചരിച്ച ചില കഥകളിലെ കേവലം ചില കഥാപാത്രങ്ങളെയാണ് അദ്ദേഹം വരച്ചു കാട്ടിയിരിക്കുന്നത്. ഈ കഥാപാത്രങ്ങള് ആണു ദൈവമെന്നും, ഇവരൊക്കെയാണ് ഈ ലോകത്തിന്റെ നിയന്ത്രണം ഏേറ്റെടുത്തിരിക്കുന്നതെന്നും പൂര്വികര് തലമുറകളായി പറഞ്ഞു പ്രചരിപ്പിച്ചു പഠിപ്പിച്ചു പറ്റിച്ച അറിവുമാത്രമേ നമുക്കുള്ളൂ. അല്ലാതെ ഈ ലോകത്തും സംഭവിച്ചതും, സംഭവിച്ചുകൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നതൊന്നും, ഇനി സംഭവിക്കാന് പോകുന്നതും ദൈവത്തിന്റെ കളികള് (ഹി ഹി ഹി, ചിരിക്കാതെ വയ്യാ!) ആണെന്ന് ഇന്നേവരെ ആരെങ്കിലും ശാസ്ത്രീയമായി/അല്ലെങ്കില് വേറേ രീതിയില് തെളിയിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ടോ രാഹുളേ, രതീഷേ?
"ദൈവം" എന്നതു കേവലം മനുഷ്യ സൃഷ്ടി ആണ്, അത് മനുഷ്യന്റെ സങ്കല്പ്പവും, സാഹചര്യവും, സംസ്കാരവും, സമ്പത്തും, സ്വപ്നങ്ങളും അനുസരിച്ച് ഒരോ സ്ഥലത്തും ഒരോ രീതിയില് ആയിരിക്കും അവതരിക്കപ്പെടുന്നത്. ആഹാ നമുക്ക് ആ വിഷയം കളയാം...
നിങ്ങളിവിടെ പറഞ്ഞു വന്നതെന്താന്നുവെച്ചാല് M.F.Husain ഭാരതസംസ്കാരത്തിനെ കളങ്കപ്പെടുത്തി എന്നാണല്ലോ. ഞാന് ഒന്നു ചോദിച്ചോട്ടേ? രാമന്, സീത, രാവണന്, ദുര്ഗ്ഗ, ഹനുമാന്, ഗണപതി, സരസ്വതി, ഭാരതമാതാവ് ഇതൊക്കെ വെറും സാങ്കല്പ്പിക സൃഷ്ടികള് അല്ലേ? ഇവരുടെയൊക്കെ രൂപം ഇതാണ്, ഇതല്ലാ എന്നു വേര്തിരിച്ചു പറയാന് മാത്രം നിങ്ങള്ക്ക് അവരെയൊന്നും കണ്ടു പരിചയം ഒന്നും ഇല്ലല്ലോ? നഗ്നത ഒരു കുറ്റം ആണോ രാഹുള്? സമൂഹം നമ്മെ അങ്ങനെ പഠിപ്പിച്ചതല്ലേ? ലിംഗ പ്രദര്ശനം അത്ര വല്യ പാപം ആണെങ്കില് എന്തുകൊണ്ടു നിങ്ങള് ശിവലിംഗം പൂജിക്കുന്നതു നിര്ത്തുന്നില്ല, ശിവലിംഗത്തെ നിങ്ങള് "സൃഷ്ടി" യുടെ ഒരു ആദര്ശം വിളംബി ന്യായീകരിക്കും എന്നറിയാം, പക്ഷേ, ഏതു ഷോക്കേസ്സില് വെച്ചാലും ലിംഗം... ലിംഗം തന്നെ ആകുന്നു, അതു നഗ്നതാ പ്രദര്ശനം തന്നെ ആണ്. രാഹുള് & രതീഷ് ഹരിദ്വാറിലും, വരാണസിയിലും, ഋഷികേശിലും ഒക്കെ പോയി നോക്കുക അവിടെ കാണാം വിവസ്ത്രരായി നടക്കുന്ന സന്യാസിമാരെ, അവരേയും ജനങ്ങള് അങ്ങീകരിക്കുന്നുണ്ട് ബഹുമാനിക്കുന്നുണ്ട്. അവരും ഹിന്ദുക്കള് അല്ലേ??? (അക്കൂട്ടത്തില് കള്ളന്മാരും ഉണ്ട്, മലയാളികല് അനേകം)
നിങ്ങളൊക്കെ വര്ഷങ്ങളായി പൂജാമുറിയില് വച്ചു പൂജിക്കുന്നതു രാജാ രവി വര്മ്മ വരച്ചതോ, അല്ലെങ്കില് ശിവകാശിയിലെ ഏതെങ്കിലും പ്രസ്സിലെ mould & dye ല് നിന്നും ജനിച്ചു വീണതോ ആയ ദൈവങ്ങളെ ആയിരിക്കും. ആ രൂപങ്ങള് അവരുടെ ശൈലി, M.F.Husain എന്ന വ്യക്തി വരയ്ക്കുന്നതു വേറേ രീതിയില് ആയിരിക്കും. ഓരോ ചിത്രകാരന്മാര്കും അവരുടേതായ ശൈലി കാണും. അതു അങ്ങീകരിക്കാനുള്ള മനസ്സു വേണം. ഈയിടെ Hanuman Returns എന്നൊരു cartoon movie ഇറങ്ങിയല്ലോ, അതിലെ ഹനുമാന് ഉടുപ്പും നിക്കറും ആണ് വേഷം. അതും ഒരു തരത്തില് distortion അല്ലേ? എന്തുകൊണ്ട് രാഹുള് ഈശ്വര് അതിനെതിരേ പ്രതികരിച്ചില്ല? തിരുവനന്തപുരത്തു തന്നെ ആണല്ലോ Toonz Animation പ്രവര്ത്തിക്കുന്നത്?
M.F.Husain എന്ന പ്രതിഭ ചില നിറങ്ങളും, വരകളും, ചിഹ്നംഗളും കൊണ്ട് ആ കഥാപാത്രങ്ങളെ, അദ്ദേഹത്തിന്റെ ശൈലിയില് പുനസൃഷ്ടിച്ചപ്പോള് ഇവിടെ അതു ചില അവന്മാര്ക്കു സഹിക്കുന്നില്ല. കഥാപാത്രങ്ങളെ കലാകാരനു എങ്ങനെ വേണമെങ്കിലും അവതരിപ്പിക്കാം, പക്ഷേ ജീവിച്ചിരുന്ന അല്ലെങ്കില് ജീവിച്ചിരിക്കുന്ന വ്യക്തികളെ അവതരിപ്പിക്കുമ്പോള് സമൂഹത്തില് അവര് എപ്രകാരമാണോ ആയിരുന്നത് അങ്ങനെ തന്നെ ആയിരിക്കും അവരെ എല്ലാ കലാകാരന്മാരും പുനവതരിപ്പിക്കുന്നത്. ഉദാഹരണം: ഹുസൈന് തന്നെ വരച്ച ഫാത്തിമ, ഗാന്ധി, മദര് തെരേസ, മാധുരി, അമൃത... ഫാത്തിമയും മദര് തെരേസയും ജീവിച്ചിരുന്ന വ്യക്തികള് ആണ്, അല്ലാതെ രണ്ട് മതങ്ങളുടെ പ്രതിനിധികള് അല്ല. ഇവിടെ രാഹുള് പറഞ്ഞു പരത്തുന്നതുപോലുള്ള പക്ഷപാതം അല്ല ഹുസൈന് കാണിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നത്.
ഹിന്ദു ദൈവങ്ങളെ നഗ്നരായി ചിത്രീകരിക്കുന്നത് ഇത്ര വല്യ പാപം ആണെങ്കില് രഹുല് ഈശ്വര് എന്തുകൊണ്ട് അമ്പലങ്ങളിലെ ചുവര്ച്ചിത്രങ്ങളെ എതിര്ക്കുന്നില്ല? പാര്വതിയും, മോഹിനിയും, കുന്തിയും ദൈവങ്ങള് അല്ലേ? വടകര ക്ഷേത്രത്തിലെ പാര്വതിയും, കീഴൂര് അമ്പലത്തിലെ മോഹിനിയും, ഇളംകുന്നപ്പുഴയിലെ കുന്തിയും മാറു മറച്ചിട്ടില്ലല്ലോ. ഇതുപോലെ മറ്റനേകം ചിത്രങ്ങള് പലയിടത്തും ഇല്ലേ? മട്ടാഞ്ചേരി പാലസ്സിലെ പാര്വതി പരിണയം ചിത്രതിനെതിരെ എന്തുകൊണ്ട് blog തുടങ്ങിയില്ലാ? ചുവര് ചിത്രങ്ങളില് നഗ്നത / രതിയുടെ അംശം കൂടുതല് ഉള്ള ചിത്രങ്ങല് മറ്റുള്ളവയെ അപേക്ഷിച്ച് പുണ്ടരീകപുരത്തും ഏറ്റുമാനൂര് ക്ഷേത്രത്തിലും കൂടുതല് കാണാന് കഴിയും. അതിന്റെ അര്ത്ഥം അവിടെ ചിത്രം വരച്ച വ്യക്തി ഹിന്ദു വിരുദ്ധന് ആണെന്നാണോ?
Sapna പറഞ്ഞതു പോലെ സ്വന്തം വീടു വൃത്തിയാക്കിയിട്ടു പോരേ മറ്റുള്ളവരുടെ മുറ്റം വൃത്തിയാക്കാന് ഇറങ്ങുന്നത്?
അപ്പോള് ചിത്രത്തിനല്ലാ കുഴപ്പം എന്നു രതീഷിനു മനസ്സിലായല്ലോ, അത് എങ്ങനെ നോക്കി കാണുന്നു എന്നതിലാണ് ആ ചിത്രത്തിന്റെ തെറ്റും ശരിയും.
Picture#1 ഹനുമാന്റേയും രാവണന്റേയും സീതയുടെയും ഒക്കെ private parts വരച്ചു എന്നാണല്ലോ രാഹുള് ആരോപിക്കുന്ന കുറ്റം, എന്താ രാഹുളേ ഈ കഥാപാത്രംഗള്ക്കൊന്നും private parts ഇല്ലായിരുന്നോ? ചുവര്ചിത്രങ്ങളിലും അങ്ങ് north'ലെ ചില ഗുഹാ ചിത്രങ്ങളിലും ഈ private parts വരച്ചിട്ടുണ്ടല്ലോ, അതോ ഒരു മുസ്ലിം അതൊന്നും വരയ്ക്കാന് പാടില്ലെന്നുണ്ടോ?
രാഹുളിന്റെ comment ..seetha sitting on thigh of naked raavana... എന്താ രാഹുളേ ഒരു സ്ത്രീയെ മടിയിലിരുത്തുന്നത് ഇത്ര വല്യ തെറ്റാണോ? രാഹുളിനു അതൊക്കെ കണ്ടാല് കാമം തോന്നുമായിരിക്കും, പക്ഷേ എല്ലാരും അങ്ങനല്ല. രാമായണത്തില് തന്നെ പറയുന്നുണ്ട് രാവണനു സീതയോട് കാമം അല്ലാ ആരാധന ആയിരുന്നു എന്നു. അപ്പോള് രാഹുളിന്റെ വാക്കുകളില് എന്താണ് ഒളിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നത്? ലൈംഗിക അരാജകത്വം അല്ലേ?
Picture#2
Hanuman watches as sita and ram having sex from behind
ഹനുമാന് രാമന്റെ ഭക്തനും ഭൃത്യനും ആണ്. ഭൃത്യനു യജമാനന്റെ വീട്ടില് നടക്കുന്ന എല്ലാ കാര്യങ്ങളും അറിയാം. ഹനുമാന്റെ ഹൃദയത്തിനുള്ളില് രാമനും സീതയും ജീവിക്കുന്നു എന്നാണ് സങ്കല്പ്പം. അപ്പോള് രാമനും സീതയും തമ്മിലുള്ള sexual intercourse പോലും ഹനുമാന് സ്വന്തം ഹൃദയമിടിപ്പില് കൂടി അറിയാന് സാധിക്കും. ഭക്തനു മൂര്ത്തിയെ എപ്പോള് വേണമെങ്കിലും സമീപിക്കാം എന്നാണ് ആ ചിത്രം കൊണ്ട് ഉദ്ദേശ്ശിക്കുന്നത്, അല്ലാതെ ഹനുമാന് രാമന്റെ കിടപ്പറയില് സീന് പിടിക്കാന് പോയതല്ല. ഹനുമാന് എന്ന character ഒരു വാനരന് ആണ്, അതിനു രാമനും സീതയും "sex from behind" എന്ന പോസില് ആണു നില്ക്കുന്നതെന്നു പോലും തിരിച്ചരിയാനുള്ള വിവേകം കാണില്ല. Full time രാമ രാമ രാമ രാമ....
Picture #3 Naked Saraswathi
Picture #4 Naked Bharathmatha
Picture #5 Naked Lekshmi
എന്നെ ഈ മാരണത്തിലേക്കു കൂട്ടിക്കൊണ്ടു വന്ന രഞ്ജിത്ത് പറഞ്ഞ അതേ വാക്കുകള് തന്നെ ആണ് എനിക്കും പറയാന് ഉള്ളത്.
Picture #6 Naked Durga in sexual union with tiger.
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Picture #7
Sita devi as Nymphomaniac-
Rahul you consider all these characters as yourmothers, fathers and sisters.Let me ask you one silly question. Do you get sexually aroused when you see your mother riding a horse? or your sister in crosslegged pose? Do you callit soophilia? Are they having sex with that surface?
ഇതും രാഹുളിന്റെ ലൈംഗിക അരാജകത്വം അല്ലേ?
ഇങ്ങനെ ആണെങ്കില് നി ഇരിക്കുന്ന കസേരകള് എല്ലാം തന്നെ gay അല്ലേ? അതെല്ലാം തന്നെ നിന്നെ sex from back അല്ലേ ചെയ്യുന്നത്? അതിനു വഴിവച്ചു കൊടുക്കുന്ന രാഹുള് ഒരു gay അല്ലേ?
So, Buddy... Think from out of the box.
It is very clear from your blog that your hatred is not against Hussain, you are an Anti Communist/Government. കിരീടം തെറിച്ച എല്ലാ മാടമ്പികള്ക്കും ഉള്ളൊരു സൂക്കേട് ആണ് ഇത്. Government ഇതു ചെയ്യുന്നില്ലാ, നമ്മള് ഇതു ചെയ്യും എന്നുള്ള ഒരു നാടകമാണോ തന്റെ Health Card distribution. ഇപ്പോള് കേരളത്തില് കുട്ടികള് വിശക്കുമ്പോള് Health Card ആണ് ചവച്ചു തിന്നുന്നതെന്നാ നാട്ടീന്ന് ഭാര്യ വിളിച്ചപ്പോള് പറഞ്ഞത്. :-) Anyway all the best if it was of good intentions.
Off Topic: രതീഷിനു മറുപടി പറഞ്ഞു ആണ് തുടങ്ങിയതെങ്കിലും വന്ന് അവസാനിച്ചത് രാഹുളില് ആണ്. ഞാന് വീണ്ടും വഴിപിഴച്ചതു കണ്ടു എന്റെ അമ്മ സങ്കടപ്പെടുന്നുണ്ടാകും.
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Manushyaputhra... shame on you really shame on you... അയ്യായിരം വര്ഷങ്ങള്ക്ക് മുകളില് പാരമ്പര്യമുള്ള ഹിന്ദുമത സംസ്കാരത്തെ വെറും ആയിരത്തോളം വര്ഷം മുന്നേപ്രചരിച്ച കഥകളാക്കി തെളിവുകളും അടിസ്ഥാനവും ഇല്ലാതെ വിമര്ശ്ശിക്കുന്നതിനുവേണ്ടിമാത്രം പറയുന്നതുകൊണ്ട് താങ്കള്ക്ക് എന്താണ് ലഭിക്കാന് പോകുന്നത്.... ഭാരതത്തിലെ നാലില് മൂന്ന് വരുന്ന ഭൂരിഭാഗം ജനങ്ങളും പൂജിച്ച് വിശ്വസിച്ച് വരുന്ന ശ്രീരാമനേയും സീതാദേവിയേയും ഹിന്ദുമതത്തില് അടിയുറച്ച് വിശ്വസിക്കുന്ന ഒരു വിശ്വാസി എന്ന നിലക്ക് നഗ്നരായി ചിത്രീകരിച്ചാല് അതുപൊറുക്കാനും മാത്രം വിശാലമനസ്കനല്ല ഞാന്. എന്റെ മാതാപിതാക്കളുടേയോ സഹോദരിമാരുടേയോ ചിത്രം വികലമാക്കി വരക്കുന്നപോലെ ഒരു വികാരമായിരിക്കും ഈ ചിത്രത്തോടും എനിക്ക് തോന്നുന്നത്. പിന്നെ നഗ്നത എന്നത് ഒരു കുറ്റമല്ല മനുഷ്യപുത്രാ. ആസ്ട്രേലിയായിലും സിംബാവേയിലും തുടങ്ങി ഒരുപാട് Asian Australian European രാജ്യങ്ങളില് അതൊരു കച്ചവടം മാത്രമാണ്. തായ്ലാന്ഡിലും ആംസ്റ്റര്ഡാമിലും എന്തിന് മിഡില് ഈസ്റ്റില് പോലും പണം കൊടുത്താല് കൊടുക്കുന്ന പണത്തിന്റെ മൂല്യത്തിനുള്ള Prostitute നേയോ Guy നേയോ ലഭിക്കും. കണ്ണാടി കൂട്ടില് വസ്ത്രം വില്ക്കുന്നതിനായി വച്ചിരിക്കുന്നപോലെ സ്ത്രീകളെയും പുരുഷന്മാരേയും വില്പനക്ക് വച്ചിരിക്കുന്ന ഒരുപാട് രാജ്യങ്ങള് ഈ ലോകത്തിലുണ്ട്. പക്ഷെ അതാണോ നമ്മുടെ ഭാരത സംസ്ക്കാരം, ആ സംസ്ക്കാരം നമ്മുടെ ഭാരത സംസ്കാരത്തിന് യോജിച്ചതല്ല. ഹോളിവുഡിലെ നടികള് ഒരു ഡ്രസ്സ് മാറുന്ന ലാഘവത്തോടെയാണ് സ്വന്തം കാമുകന്മാരെയും ഭര്ത്താക്കന്മാരേയും മാറുന്നത്... അത് നമ്മുടെ സംസ്ക്കാരമാണോ??
എം എഫ് ഹുസൈന് പക്ഷപാതമല്ല കാണിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നത് എന്ന് പറയുന്നുണ്ടല്ലോ, അങ്ങനെയാണെന്കില് എന്തുകൊണ്ടായിരിക്കും അദ്ദേഹം വിശുദ്ധപ്രവാചകന്റെയോ യേശുക്രിസ്തുവിന്റ്റേയോ ചിത്രങ്ങള് നഗ്നമായി വരക്കാന് ധൈര്യപ്പെടാത്തത്??
ചുവര്ചിത്രങ്ങളിലെ നഗ്നതയെ കുറിച്ച്, പറഞ്ഞല്ലോ ഇരുപത്തിയഞ്ച് വര്ഷമായി താങ്കള് പറഞ്ഞ എളന്കുന്നപ്പുഴയില് ജീവിക്കുന്ന ഞാനിതുവരെ ആ അമ്പലത്തിലെ ചുവര്ചിത്രം ആ രീതിയിലൊരു കണ്ണുകള് കൊണ്ട് നോക്കിയിട്ടില്ല. കാരണം എല്ലാവരും ക്ഷേത്രത്തില് പോകുന്നത് ഭഗവാനെ ദര്ശ്ശിക്കുന്നതിന് വേണ്ടിയാണ്. അല്ലാതെ അവിടെ വരച്ചിട്ടുള്ള ചിത്രത്തില് ഭഗവാന് ധരിച്ചിരിക്കുന്ന വസ്ത്രത്തിന് സുതാര്യത ഉണ്ടോ... ദേവി മാറ് മറക്കാതാണോ ഇരിക്കുന്നത് എന്നൊന്നും നോക്കുന്നതിനല്ല... ഒരു യഥാര്ത്ഥ വിശ്വാസി എന്തായാലും അത്തരത്തില് നോക്കുകയും ഇല്ല. കൂടാതെ എം എഫ് എച് ആ ചിത്രങ്ങള് ഒരു രീതിയിലുമുള്ള പക്ഷപാതവുമില്ലാതാണ് വരച്ചിരുന്നതെന്കില് എന്തിന് നഗ്ന ചിത്രങ്ങള് വരച്ചു??? എന്തിന് ജനങ്ങളെ പ്രകോപിതരാക്കാനായി അവ പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിച്ചു?? ഇതില് നിന്നും ഒരു കാര്യം സുവ്യക്തമാണ്, അദ്ദേഹത്തിന്റെ മനസ്സ് അത്ര ശുദ്ധമല്ല... കൂടാതെ തന്റെ പ്രസിദ്ധി അല്പം കുറഞ്ഞ് പോയോ അങ്ങനെ ആയാല് താനെങ്ങനെ ജീവിക്കും എന്നും തോന്നിക്കാണണം അദ്ദേഹത്തിന്... പ്രശസ്തിയുണ്ടെന്കിലേ ചിത്രത്തിന് വില ലഭിക്കൂ എന്ന് മനസ്സിലാക്കാന് മാത്രം വിവരമില്ലാത്ത ആളായിരിക്കില്ലല്ലോ അദ്ദേഹം. പണത്തിനും പ്രശസ്തിക്കും വേണ്ടി എന്ത് വൃത്തികേടൂം കാണിക്കാന് മുതിരുന്ന എം എഫ് നെ പോലുള്ള ഒരാളെ സപ്പോര്ട്ട് ചെയ്ത് സംസാരിക്കേണ്ട എന്ത് കാര്യമാണ് താങ്കള്ക്കുള്ളത്??? മാധുരി ദീക്ഷിത്തിന്റെ ഒരു ഫിലിം കാണുന്നതിന് അദ്ദേഹം ചെലവഴിച്ച പണം ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നെന്കില് നമ്മുടെ ഭാരതത്തിലെ പണമില്ലാത്തതുകൊണ്ട് മാത്രം വിവാഹം വൈകുന്ന ഒരു പത്ത് യുവതികളുടെ കല്യാണം വളരെ ഈസിയായി നടത്താമായിരുന്നു...
പിന്നെ ദേവന്മാര്ക്കും ദേവിമാര്ക്കും മാത്രമല്ല മനുഷ്യപുത്രാ private parts ഉള്ളത്... എനിക്കും താങ്കള്ക്കും എല്ലാവര്ക്കും ഉണ്ട്... അതിനെ ചിത്രീകരിച്ചിരിക്കുന്ന രീതിയെ ആണ് ഇവിടെ വിമര്ശ്ശിക്കുന്നത്. രാമായണത്തില് രാവണന് ആരാണെന്ന് ഞാന് മനുഷ്യപുത്രന് പറഞ്ഞ് തരേണ്ട ആവശ്യം ഉണ്ടാകില്ലല്ലോ... ആ രാവണന്റെ മടിയില് സീതാദേവിയെ ഇരുത്തുന്നതിനാണ് കുഴപ്പം എന്ന് പറയുന്നത്. സീതാദേവി പതിവ്രതയായിട്ടുള്ള ഒരു സ്ത്രീ ആയിരുന്നു മനുഷ്യപുത്രാ... രാവണന് ആരാധനയായിരുന്നു എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞില്ലെ അത് സീതാദേവിയുടെ ഇത്തരം ഗുണങ്ങള് കൊണ്ടായിരുന്നു... പിന്നെ ഹനുമാന് സ്വാമിയെ പറ്റിയാണ് താങ്കളുടെ കമന്റ്റ്, മര്യാദാ പുരുഷോത്തമനായിരുന്ന ശ്രീരാമസ്വാമി ഒരിക്കലും തന്റെ ഭക്തന്റെയോ ഭൃത്യന്റ്റേയോമുന്നില് വച്ച് ആഒരു രീതിയില് പെരുമാറേണ്ട കാര്യമില്ല കാരണം അദ്ദേഹം വെറുമൊരു മനുഷ്യനല്ലതന്നെ...
പിന്നെ ചിത്രകാരന് എന്നൊരു ബ്ലോഗറെ അറിയുമല്ലോ അദ്ദേഹത്തിനും ഇതേകുഴപ്പമാണ്. ആവശ്യമില്ലാതെ ഹിന്ദു ദേവകളെ ചീത്തവിളിക്കുക. ഒരു ബ്ലോഗറുടെ വാക്കുകള് കടം കൊണ്ട് പറയട്ടെ... ദൂരെ നിന്ന് ഒരു നഗ്നയായ സ്ത്രീ പിന് തിരിഞ്ഞ് നില്ക്കുന്നകണ്ടാല് എല്ലാ ആണുങ്ങളും sexually aroused അകും ആകണം അതാണ് പ്രകൃതി നിയമം. അടുത്ത് വരുമ്പോളായിരിക്കും മനസിലാകുന്നത് അത് അമ്മയായിരുന്നു അഥവാ പെങ്ങളായിരുന്നു എന്ന്. അപ്പോള് ആണ് നമ്മളുടെ സംസ്കാരം പ്രവര്ത്തിക്കേണ്ടത്. സംസ്ക്കാരം ഉള്ള ഒരു വ്യക്തിയാണെന്കില് അവര്ക്കുടുക്കാന് ഒരു വസ്ത്രം കൊടുക്കും അല്ലെന്കില് ഒരു വസ്ത്രമെടുത്ത് അവരെ ഉടുപ്പിക്കും. അല്ലാതെ അവിടെ വികാരമല്ല പ്രവര്ത്തിക്കേണ്ടത്. ഭാരതീയ സംസ്ക്കാരപ്രകാരം സ്ത്രീ അമ്മയാണ് സഹോദരിയാണ് ഭാര്യയുമാണ്.
പിന്നെ ചുവര്ചിത്രങ്ങളില് എവിടെയാണ് രാവണന്റെ മടിയിലിരിക്കുന്ന സീതയുടേയും നഗ്നയായിരിക്കുന്ന സരസ്വതീ ദേവിയുടേയും ചിത്രങ്ങള് താങ്കള് കണ്ടിട്ടുള്ളത്. ചുവര്ചിത്രങ്ങള് ഐതിഹ്യങ്ങളാണ് പറയുന്നതും പ്രചരിപ്പിക്കുന്നതും. ആ രീതിയിലാണ് ഭക്തര് ആ ചിത്രങ്ങളെ വീക്ഷിക്കുന്നത് അല്ലാതെ ഇത്തരം തരം താണ ചിത്രങ്ങള് വരക്കുന്ന എം.എഫ്. നെ പോലുള്ളവരുടെ Attitude ചോദ്യം ചെയ്യപ്പെടേണ്ടതാണ്. അതാണിവിടെ നടന്നുകൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നതും.
രാജാ രവിവര്മ്മയും ശിവകാശിയിലെ പ്രസ്സില് അച്ചടിച്ച ചിത്രങ്ങളും പൂജാമുറിയില് വച്ച് ആരാധിക്കുന്നത് അവയ്ക്ക് മനുഷ്യരുടെ മനസ്സിലിടം തേടാന് കഴിയുന്നതുകൊണ്ടാണ്. ഒരു പക്ഷെ എം.എഫ്. ന്റെ ചിത്രങ്ങള് ഇടം പിടിക്കാത്തതിന്റെ കാരണം ഭാരതത്തിലെ എല്ലാവരും ചിത്രകല അറിയാത്തവരായതുകൊണ്ടും ആയിരിക്കും. എം.എഫ് നെ ഈ ഒരു കാരണം കൊണ്ട് മാത്രം വെറുക്കുന്ന ആള്ക്കാര് ഭൂരിഭാഗവും ഇത്തരം സാധാരണക്കാരും ആയിരിക്കും... Like me, Rahul etc..
So please post your comments for the same subject and please leave third rated comments. Again I am repeating "സ്വയം ഒരു വിഡ്ഡിയാകുവാന് ശ്രമിക്കരുതേ" this is a request.
Hi Rahul,
I watched you hosting a show on Kiran TV(if I'm not wrong) about two years back or so, and was impressed with your spiritually inclined talks. However I could not watch your programme often due to my office timings.
I didn't see you thereafter on TV or in news.
Then yesterday I found a link in a blog site to youtube where you called a hostess of tv show 'fundamentalist'. And I was pleasantly surprised to remember you from your Kiran show.
Also was surprised to know that you are Grandson of the priest of Sabarimala.
That explains your spiritual thoughts I suppose. Because when I watched your Kiran show I had wondered how you happened to be spiritually inclined since most TV hosts are otherwise.
I was of course unaware of all the noise you have been making in Kerala and in the national scene.
After seeing some of your clippings on Youtube I googled your name and finally got here.
First off, Congratulations on the mature way you have handled yourself on TV, especially while countering Sudhakaran.
Your sincereity and patriotic feelings are also commendworthy.
I guess your parents deserves a lot of credit for bringing you up well.
A while back I chanced upon a speech by Smt Sasikala Teacher on the web and was impressed by Teacher's courage and articulation of thoughts.
At that time I thought that even if true men are absent in Kerala, there is at least one woman who has guts.
I confess I have been truely ignorant about Kerala matters.
Seeing your performance on TV and blog has been very satisfying.
I see that you have got some 1065 comments on your blog!
Is that some record?
I suggest that you make your response to your visitors in the form of a new posts.
That will make it easy to browse.
I haven't gone thru all the comments.
So let me ask you, have you been successful in convincing any of the people here who came with a different view point ?
Anyways congratulations for your perseverance.
1000 comments and replies defintely takes the cake.
I will go thru the comments some time in the future.
Regards
Dear Rahul,
I am with you in your protest against MFH.
However, I have some queries -
You have opposed Taslima Nasreen.
Do you have any particular reason apart from that she is a Bangladeshi who offended some Indian Muslims?
Can you be more specific about the reasons for your objection to her?
Have you read 'Lajja'?
Your claim that 'an Indian Muslim is more important to you than a Bangladeshi Hindu' sounds like you are trying to establish your secular credentials.
You have also condemned Modi- the favorite whipping boy of 'secular'/'marxists' for all the ills of the country- for supporting Taslima.
The people of Gujarat endorse him, the business leaders of India endorse him, and the Nanavati Commission exornates him.
Yet you condemn him.
Should I assume that you know him personally well enough to conclude that he is 'THE VILLAIN of all things' ?
Coming to MFH,
He is 93yrs old.
It is safe to conclude that when a person crosses 80 his intellectual vigour start to deteriorate and a sort of inertia takes over his life.
Two things generally occur.
The person loses the ability to think new things and break new ground and he becomes stubborn about certain things.
MFH's devotion to Madhuri is an example.
Condemnation of MFH's dwgs is definitely a correct step.
But it should not be the end.
The real reason why such dwgs came into existence in the first place needs to be understood and addressed.
I do not think it is because MFH is a fundamentalist who drew these pics to denigrate Hindusim.
I think MFH's drawings of these pics are only symptomatic of society's denigration of Hinduism due to ignorance.
Artists by and large, through their works reflect the psyche of the society.
MFH's works, I guess, have been merely the mirror that reflected undercurrents of our society's opinion of our culture and traditions.
That same opinion is seen being voiced openly by many in this comments section.
That same attitude was evident in the way Sudhakaran has been talking.
That same attitude is also reflected in the way the hostesses of some TV shows that you attended questioned the traditions.
Again the attitude is evident in the way TN govt and ASI went about in the Ram Sethu issue.
So the bottomline is,-
MFH's dwgs are only the symptoms. and getting the symptoms withdrawn is only one step. Removing the illness that plagues the society is the bigger and more important goal.
I hope you will don the leadership role towards that diffcult goal.
You definitey have age, communication skills and some amount of spiritual knowledge in your side.
Good luck.
Dear MANUSHYA PUTRA...
It is sad that people are cynics. I know that I have to deal with them, it is ok..it has became a habit and changing them has become my hobby.
Health Cards
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Health card chavachhu tinnan pattila...pakshe enthekilum chavachu tinnanel health venem.
Usually our charitable institutions take care of food by the way of annadanam, clothes by the way of circulating old clothes and education by the way of freeships and scholarships.
The area of health is not given much importance. These things are not found by THINKING in an armed chair. Rather these are the finding of our NGO and last Governmental report on the health condition of BPL (2007)
1) the average BPL child lives on a budget o Rs 450/month. (which includes food, accomodation, clothes, eduacation, books etc)
2) The greatest challenge they or charitable organisations face is when they get a disease. for eg: we have an orphanage in koonanvenga, there are 23 children. If one child is admitted to hospital and we have to spend 1000 rs on him, this 1000 will have to be taken from 23 members.
3) WHat the card does - it is a central government insurance scheme in association with New India Assurance. Where we pool in 100 and govt subsidizes 200. so with that 300, a child gets a cover of 30,000/ year.
4) so they can be taken to hospital, health care, medicine, with out taking money from other children's food share.
Manushyaputra...
Manushya putran ennu paranja matram matiyakilla. Manushya rude buddhimuttukal manasillakanam. Nale Viplavam varum ennu paranjal ennu vishappu marilla. nale samatwam undakum ennu paranja, ennu aarogyam undakilla.
it is easy to criticse, the easiest job with out flexing one muscle of the body....83.6 crore of Indians live under Rs.20 a day. Avarkuu criticism, ideology, chintha...matiyakilla. they need food, shelter, clothes, education, health and other basic facilities.
AND DEAR MANUSHYAPUTRA....
You might not have gone thru the earlier posts.
BUT FOR U I REPEAT....IT IS NOT ABOUT NUDITY BUT ABOUT VULGARITY WE RAISE PROTESTS....
We all value freedom, freedom is one corner stone on which modern democracy is founded, it is the basic need for the fulfillment of human potential and creative exploration. Liberty is a great virtue.
But does that mean, we can burn Indian flag in the name of freedom. Can we paint compromising pictures of a female co-worker in the name of freedom. In the name of freedom, is there UNLIMITED freedom, is FREEDOM beyond social responsibility, can we do anything in the name of freedom. Will some body's sensitivites get hurt if our family is painted like that??
I will get hurt, i am a bit narrow minded. But till to date, i have not seen any one being an exception to this.
And come on brother, these arguments of temples, jain saints...they are so out of context and childish.
We have Mahavira, the great prophet walking naked in history. Does that mean one person can go naked to his college or work place saying that it was even done by the great prophet Mahavira?
DOnt compare apple and pineapple, just because they have apple at the end...
Be more impartial, LIBERTY IS GREAT, RESPONSIBILITY IS GREATER.
Mr. Eashwer, this is not fair to delete other people's comments. Donn mind whether they are with or against, you must give some respect to the time & energy invested.
Dear INCOGNITO....
Their is another reason to oppose TASLIMA as well along with respecting sensibilites of our muslim brother hood. I dont do it either to "become secular" nor am I pseudo secular.
2 reasons
1) Taslima is a cheap publicity seeker, Who uses the cheapest of gimmicks for publicity
eg: when she left India, she told European audience, IN INDIAN THEY KILLED MY CREATIVITY LOCKING ME UP INSIDE A ROOM - non sense.
I have read Lajja and some of her other works, they dont have the quality, so many international reviews said that.
2) There was a Madhavikutty in kerala, who spoke for feminism, female sexual liberty, nudity for 3 decades and at last she told, "I was wrong, a women needs love & protection first, then only freedom"
She mislead our women folk for decades and at last realised that she was in the wrong path. Same happend with the famous feminist, Gloria steinem, after preaching feminism, and "marriage as male chauvinism" for 25 years, she got married by the age of 56.
Taslima should be opposed becoz, these pseudo liberal writers will destroy the ethical fabric on which a nation is built, family values, based on monogamy, faihtfulness, sexual conservatism, ethical purity etc..
This is also a reason why Taslima should be opposed along with respecting our Muslim brothers sensitivities. Jai Hind
And Dear Manushyaputra...
Those comments are only deleted which has used foul language, all others comments are kept as I believe in democracy, free and responsible speech, respect for the dissenting opinion etc.. But usage of foul language, irrelevant communication to the context ought to be deleted, right?
All other comments, irrespective of for or against are kept and will be kept. Even personal attacks to an extent, I believe should be allowed in public sphere. I respect the effort taken by them to post them and convey to others their point of view. But comments using foul language, irrelevant should not be entertained, any difference of opinion?
It's really shocking,,,what's more shocking is that there are still people who give him awards and fame,,Too...much!!!felt bad after going through u'r blog.
Anyway nice work,,,keep it up
question no 1.
who stitched the blouse of sarawasathi portrayed in raja ravi varma's painting which is posted in this blog and quoted as a great one by rahul?
( enikku swanthamaayi oru thayyal kada thudangaan aanu! Avide itreem skill ulla oru thayyal karane/ kaariye kittiyaal njaan paris Milan fashion circle il valare famous aakum!
I do remember about a picture that MFH rendered some time back. It was about 4 leaders… In the painting hussain depicted four leaders; Einstein, gandhi, max and Hitler. There he depicted Hitler as naked. In an interview Hussain said, he hate Hitler, so in order to humiliate him, he depicted hitler in that way, because he deserves it!!! So in Hussain's view itself, if he depicts some one as nude, it is because he just want to humiliate... And if any one sees that painting “4 leaders” too, also get the same feel... yes, might be hitler deserves it!!! The same MFh depicted the nude paintings of the bharath mata/hindu god/goddess!!! At this moment really I am not that broad minded to support his freedom of expression or I am just not thinking nudity is the purest form at least in his view. Because at least, I am still thinking he never have seen Hitler in that purest/worshipped form!!!
Rahul, you simply rocks! keep it up!
To poocha ---> probably if you can do a deep research you may get the tailor's name of Hitler...But MFH was much more comfortable to depict hitler as a naked one...!!!
Rahul, you wrote-
"Taslima is a cheap publicity seeker, Who uses the cheapest of gimmicks for publicity
eg: when she left India, she told European audience, IN INDIAN(sic) THEY KILLED MY CREATIVITY LOCKING ME UP INSIDE A ROOM - non sense."
If someone is locked up in a room, chances are that his/her creativity will be killed.
I don't see what is non-sense about that statement.
Whether she was literally locked up in a room in India or if she meant it as a metaphor, I leave to you to draw your own conclusions.
"I have read Lajja and some of her other works, they dont have the quality, so many international reviews said that."
Have you read Lajja in Bengali?
or did you read a translation ?
Is it because 'so many international reviews' said that they don't have quality, that you oppose Nasreen and her works?
If what you gave above are the examples of 'cheapest publicity seeking gimmicks' of Taslima, I find it insufficient to justify intolerant dislike towards her.
"Their(sic) is another reason to oppose TASLIMA as well along with respecting sensibilites of our muslim brother hood."
Does this 'our muslim brotherhood' include the All India Ittehad Millat Council that offered Rs 5 lakhs for her beheading?
Or is it part of All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen?
Would you please specify what is it that you found in Lajja that offened your brotherhood's 'sensibilities'?
After dragging in Madhavikutty and Gloria Steinem you say-
"Taslima should be opposed becoz, these pseudo liberal writers will destroy the ethical fabric on which a nation is built, family values, based on monogamy, faihtfulness, sexual conservatism, ethical purity etc.."
If Madhavikutty and Gloria Steinem's examples which you quote are anything to go by, 'these pseudo liberal writers' actually strengthens all the things which you accuse them of destroying!
Further, Taslima lived in India for 12 years. I would suppose that is quite enough time to cause all the damage that you accuse her of.
How many examples of destruction of 'the ethical fabric on which a nation is built, family values, based on monogamy, faihtfulness, sexual conservatism, ethical purity etc.' have you observed in our country in the past 12 yrs that you attribute to Taslima?
"This is also a reason why Taslima should be opposed along with respecting our Muslim brothers sensitivities."
If you go near any Mosque during namaz time, you will likely hear something like the following-
"Allahhu Akbar Allah
La Ilaha Illallah
Muhammed urasurallah!"
It roughly translates to-
'Allahu is the only God
There is no God other than Allahu.
Mohammed is his only prophet'
So, if you say Durga, Saraswati, Lakshmi, Ganapati, Rama etc., are also Gods, you are going against Islam's teachings and therefore hurting the sensibilities of a true muslim.
So, in order to respect our muslim brothers' sensitivities, will you stop saying that Durga, Saraswati, Lakshmi, Ganapati, Rama etc., are Gods?
I have a lot of respect and affection for you Rahul, based on what I heard briefly on your Kiran TV show and the few clippings that I watched on Youtube where you asked some important questions about the conscience of Malayali society.
I would look forward to hearing more thought provoking and substantial ideas from you, instead of half baked ideas and tendancy to judge on issues based on media-created perception or to gain approval from so called 'secular' brigade.
Dig deeper within yourself and bring forth the Gem within you.
Dear INCOGNITO....
My friends in media and the extremists in saffron brigade calls me over secular. and the leftist brigade calls me hindutvavadi...
I am proud to be called a hindutvavadi and also secularvadi. At any cost, the both Hindutva roots of India and secular fabric of our nation should be protected. In fact it is complimentary. India is secular because it is hindu and it can be proudly caled hindu becoz it is secular.
It is true that many people misused the word secularism for its own gains and destroyed the purity of the word. That doesnt mean secularism is bad. It is true that many among the "NYUNA PAKSHAM" are going into terrorism, getting funds from Pakistan, Iran and Saudi. It is true that there are many working against our army on behalf of ISI. It is true that the extremists Islam'ist' and extremists Marxist lobby is working against India. they will feel bad for Saddam, cry for palestine, but not for Kashmiri HIndus or Mumbai
You told "If Madhavikutty and Gloria Steinem's examples which you quote are anything to go by, 'these pseudo liberal writers' actually strengthens all the things which you accuse them of destroying!"
Dear brother, what are you talking. What did they strengthen. When Madhavikutty writes she had sex with her husband's friends, is family values strenghtned. When Taslima ridicules family system, vouches for sexual anarchy, is family strengthened?
And it is not right to have a blind muslim anger. It is not right, it is not our culture. Hussain and Taslima are 2 sides of the same coin.
Allahu Akbar...and There is no one but Allah. Dear brother it is only an expression.
It is only like "Swamiyillathoru Saranam illa Ayyappa"...
We worship VIshnu, Siva, Devi, Hanuman etc. Does that mean there is no Saranam in them. Dear brother, respecting sensitivites does not mean pseudo secularism. We, our history, our heritage teaches to respect and accept all. And who so ever is not sensitive to the sensibilities of a billion people, who can cause problem and issues between sections should not be encouraged, never be encouraged at any cost.
Jai Hind
Dear INCOGNITO,
രാഹുള് പിടിക്കുന്ന മുയലിന് എപ്പോഴും മൂന്ന് കൊമ്പ് ആണ്, എന്താണെന്നറിയില്ല. സമ്മതിച്ചുകൊടുത്തേയ്ക്ക്. ഇല്ലെങ്കില് രാഹുള് പറയും നമ്മളൊക്കെ ഓഷോ, The Hindu ഒക്കെ വായിച്ചാണ് ഇങ്ങനെ ആയിപ്പോയതെന്നും, നമുക്ക് 20-24 വയസ്സേ ആയിട്ടുള്ളൂ എന്നും. രാഹുളിനോട് സംസാരിക്കാനുള്ള പക്വത ആയിട്ടില്ലെന്നും ഒക്കെ...
"Taslima is a cheap publicity seeker, Who uses the cheapest of gimmicks for publicity."
...ഒന്നു തുമ്മുന്നെങ്കില് തന്നെ press meeting വിളിച്ചുകൂട്ടുന്ന വ്യക്തി തന്നെ ഇത് പറയണം.
manushyaputra... dont try to change ur track. the point i was discussing with incgnito was of an entirely different nature. be mature enough not to poke into another matter of a different dimension.
An art or artist are symbol of purity..i cant believ MF.hussain come up wid such corrupt expressions....
budaapeimein he s out of his mind.lol
I'm not deviating from the track, that comment came haphazardly.
I don't mean to meddle, just to offer an advice, thats all.
രതീഷ്, സുഖമാണോ?
this is for shilpa,
u r a great fan of MF husain and like her rubbish naked painting and think it as express of feeling and freedom and askm him to create a naked paining from your family or of your self....and post it over internet...then we will see how much freedom and feeling u like in art....
ok, that's my challenge to you, if u liek naked painting and painter....go ahead with ur naked painting by MF hussaain and then i will be agree that u really got sense of art and feeling
Regards,
Dear Sapna ji,
it seems like national pride have no mean for u, its really really disappointing yar...
this country providing u shelter, life, peace and protection for nothing and we must thank god for to be in india....
purhaps u must have been in Pak or Afganistan where u r not sure for end of ur life when can fall on u ,then it might had been more easy for u to understand what it mean to be an indian and its pride....
ഹൊ! എന്താ ഇവിടെ ഭയങ്കര ചൂട്?? ദീപക്കിന്റെ ചോര തിളയ്ക്കുന്നത് കൊണ്ടാണോ?
ഞാന് ചോദിച്ച ചോദ്യങ്ങള്ക്കെല്ലാം രതീഷ് ഉത്തരം പറഞ്ഞു, എന്നിട്ടും ചില സംശയങ്ങള് ബാക്കി...ഒരു തികഞ്ഞ രാഹുള് ഭക്തനോട് ഇതൊക്കെ ചോദിക്കുന്നത് തെറ്റാണെന്നറിയാം, ഭവാന് അടിയനോട് പൊറുക്കേണമേ...
Rateesh: Manushyaputhra...shame on you really shame on you...
Manushyaputhran: ഹിന്ദു മതത്തിനു അയ്യായിരം വര്ഷം പഴക്കം ഉണ്ടോ, അയ്യോ എനിക്കറിയില്ലായിരുന്നു. ആ വിവരം അറിയാതെ ആണ് ഞാന് അങ്ങനെയൊക്കെ എഴുതിയത്, അത് എന്റെ ഭാഗത്ത് നിന്നും വന്ന ഒരു വലിയ തെറ്റ് ആയി കണ്ട് ഞാന് മാപ്പ് ചോദിക്കുന്നു. രതീഷിനു സമയം ഉണ്ടെങ്കില് താഴേക്കാണുന്ന എന്റെ ഈ "ജല്പ്പനങ്ങള്" ഒന്നു വായിക്കുക..... അല്ലെങ്കില് അടുത്ത comment ലേയ്ക്ക് സ്ക്രോള് ചെയ്തോളൂ...
"ഹിന്ദു മതത്തിന്റെ" പ്രായം എനിക്കറിയില്ല, പക്ഷെ ഞാന് ഒരു അല്പം വിശ്വസികുന്ന/അനുഷ്ഠിക്കുന്ന ഒരു "സിന്ധു നദീതീര സംസ്കാരം" ഉണ്ട്, അതിന്റെ പ്രായം എന്നതു രതീഷ് പറഞ്ഞ സംഖ്യയിലും കൂടുതല് ആണ്. 6000BC കാലഘട്ടത്തില് ഋഗ്വേദം രചിക്കപ്പെട്ട സമയത്തു തന്നെ "സിന്ധു നദീതീര സംസ്കാരവും" രൂപപ്പെട്ടു തുടങ്ങി എന്നു വേണമെങ്കില് അനുമാനിക്കാം, ഏതാണ്ട് 3000BC ആയപ്പോള് അതു ഇന്നു കാണുന്ന "ഹിന്ദു സംസ്കാരത്തിന്റെ" അടിത്തറ ആയി രൂപം കൊണ്ടു.
500-200BC സ്മൃതി എന്നറിയപ്പെടുന്ന ഈ കാലഘട്ടത്തിലാണ് രാമായണം, ധര്മ്മസൂത്രം, പുരാണങ്ങള്, ശ്രൌതസൂത്രം, ഗ്രഹ്യസൂത്രം, എന്നിവ എഴുതപ്പെട്ടത്. ഈ കാലഘട്ടങ്ങളില് ആണ് മനുഷ്യര് കൂടുതല് intellectual ആയി ചിന്തിക്കാന് തുടങ്ങിയത്. Philosophers വേദി കീഴടക്കിയിരുന്ന ഒരു കാലഘട്ടം. Socrates ഇതിനു വളരെ നല്ലൊരു ഉദാഹരണം ആണ്. വേദാന്ത വിളമ്പികള് ഷൈന് ചെയ്തിരുന്ന സമയം. രാമായണത്തിലെ രാമന് എന്ന കഥാപാത്രം നല്ലൊരു Philosopher ആണ്. ധര്മ്മ അധര്മ്മത്തെക്കുറിച്ച് രാമായണത്തില്, രാമന് എന്ന മാധ്യമത്തില് കൂടിയാണ് വാല്മീകി (എഴുത്തുകാരന്) വായനക്കാരനുമായി സംവേദിക്കുന്നത്. യുവരാജാവായ രാമനെ ഒരു മര്യാദാ പുരുഷോത്തമനായി അവതരിപ്പിക്കുക വഴി രാമന് പറയുന്ന (വാല്മീകിയുടെ Philosophy) വസ്തുതകള്ക്ക് നല്ലൊരു Reach & Acceptance നേടിയെടുക്കാന് എഴുത്തുകാരനു സാധിച്ചു. അതേ Reach & Acceptance തന്നെയാണ് സിനിമയിലെ നായകന് പറയുന്ന dialogue നമ്മള് അറിയാതെ ഉള്ളില് സ്വീകരിക്കുന്നതിന്റേയും പിന്നില്. അതേ Reach & Acceptance കൊണ്ടുതന്നെയാണ് TV അവതാരകന്റെ ജല്പ്പനങ്ങള് വിഴുങ്ങി നമ്മളേല്ലാം ഇവിടെ ഒത്തു ചേര്ന്നതും.
ഈ കാലഘട്ടത്തില് ജീവിച്ചിരുന്ന മഹാന്മാരൂടെ വസ്ത്രധാരണ രീതി കൂടി താങ്കള് ഒന്നു ശ്രദ്ദിച്ചാല് നന്നായിരിക്കും.
200BC ല് ആണ് വേദാന്തത്തിന്റെ ദര്ശനങ്ങള് എന്നറിയപ്പെടുന്ന മീമാംസ സൂത്രം രചിക്കപ്പെടുന്നതും. ഈ സമയത്താണ് മഹാഭാരതത്തിനേയും, രാമായണത്തിനേയും, വേദങ്ങളേയും, പലവിധ ഹിന്ദു ആചാരങ്ങളേയും മനുഷ്യന് philosophical & scientifically പോസ്റ്റ്-മോര്ട്ടം ചെയ്യാന് തുടങ്ങിയത്. ധര്മ്മം, കര്മ്മം, മോക്ഷം എന്നീ വാക്കുകള്ക്ക് ദൈവീകതയില് നിന്നും മോചനം കിട്ടുന്നതും ഈ കാലഘട്ടത്തില് ആണ്. മനുഷ്യന് ശാസ്ത്രീയമായി കാര്യങ്ങള് ഗൌരവപൂര്വ്വം വിശകലനം ചെയ്യാന് തുടങ്ങി. അങ്ങ് ആകാശത്തിരിക്കുന്ന അദൃശ്യശക്തിയേക്കാളും അടുപ്പം അവന് അടുത്തിരിക്കുന്ന പ്രകൃതിയോട് / ഭൂമിയോട് കാട്ടി തുടങ്ങി. അതിന്റെ ഫലമെന്നോണം ഒരു scientific advancement തന്നെ സംഭവിച്ചു. Technically & Technologically അവന് ഒരുപാട് വളര്ന്നു. അതിന്റെ ഏറ്റവും നല്ല ഉദാഹരണങ്ങള് ആണ് അശോക കാലഘട്ടത്തു നിര്മ്മിച്ച ഒരിക്കലും തുരുമ്പിക്കാത്ത സ്തംഭം,Chinese medicines, Kung-Fu ഒക്കെ.
AD 200മുതല് ആണ് ഹിന്ദുസ്താനില് നിന്നും സഞ്ചാരികള് ബര്മ, തായ്ലാന്റ്, കമ്പോഡിയ, മലേഷ്യ, സുമാത്ര എന്നിവിടങ്ങളിലേയ്ക്ക് പോകുന്നതും, അവിടുള്ള ഗോത്രവര്ഗ്ഗക്കാരുടെ ഇടയില് ഹിന്ദുമതവും രാമനും രാമായണവും ഒക്കെ എത്തുന്നതും.
രതീഷ് കുമാറേ, AD 200, അതായത് ആയിരത്തി എണ്ണൂറു വര്ഷങ്ങള്ക്കു മുന്പ്. ഹിന്ദു മതത്തിന്റെ "പ്രചാരണം" തുടങ്ങി... ഞാന് ആയിരത്തോളം വര്ഷങ്ങള് എന്നു സൂചിപ്പിച്ചത് ഈ ഒരു "പ്രചരണത്തിനെ" ആണ്, അല്ലാതെ താങ്കള് പറയുന്നതുപോലെ ഹിന്ദു മതത്തിന്റെ ഉത്ഭവത്തെയല്ല.
ഞാന് മുന്പ് സൂചിപ്പിച്ച ആയിരത്തോളം വര്ഷങ്ങളുടെ പെരുമ ഇവിടെ തുടങ്ങുന്നു.....
AD 1000..... ഹിന്ദു മതത്തെ ലോകത്തിന്റെ മുക്കിലും മൂലയിലും എത്തിച്ച, ...പാശ്ചാത്യര് ഹിന്ദുസ്താനിയെന്നും, പാക്കിസ്താനിയെന്നും, റൊമാനിയെന്നും, ജിപ്സികളെന്നും ഇന്നും "സ്നേഹത്തോടെ" വിളിക്കുന്ന a cluster of people... കച്ചവട ആവശ്യത്തിനും, പുതിയൊരു ജീവിതം കെട്ടിപ്പടുത്തുന്നതിനും ആയി പഞ്ചാബില് നിന്നും, രാജസ്ഥാനില് നിന്നും മറ്റും പേര്ഷ്യയിലേക്കും, യൂറോപ്പിലേയ്ക്കും യാത്ര തിരിച്ച നമ്മുടെ പൂര്വികര്, ഹിന്ദു മത വിശ്വാസികള്. ...ഇവരുടെ പുതു തലമുറ ആണ് ഇന്ന് മിക്ക വിദ്ദേശ രാജ്യങ്ങളിലേയും "Hindu Minority Class." ഈ സഞ്ചാരികള് ഹിന്ദുമതത്തിനേയും, രാമായണത്തിനേയും മറ്റും അവരവരുടെ സാഹചര്യത്തിനും, സങ്കല്പ്പത്തിനും, താല്പ്പര്യത്തിനും അനുസരിച്ച് പൊളിച്ചെഴുതുകയുണ്ടായി.
ഈ കാലഘട്ടത്തില് ഇവിടെ ചിലയിടങ്ങളില് മുസ്ലീം ഭരനാധികാരികളുടെ തേര്വാഴ്ച്ച ആയിരുന്നല്ലോ...അനേകം ഹിന്ദു ക്ഷേത്രങ്ങള് തകര്ക്കപ്പെടുകയും അവയുടെ സ്ഥാനത്ത് പള്ളികള് കെട്ടിപ്പടുക്കുകയും ചെയ്തിരുന്നു. എന്നാല് മറ്റ് സ്ഥലങ്ങളില് രാജവംശങ്ങള് ക്ഷേത്രങ്ങള് പണിതുയര്ത്തുകയും അവയെ ചുറ്റിപ്പറ്റി പൊടിപ്പും തൊങ്ങലും വെച്ചുള്ള കഥകള് "ക്ഷേത്രൈതീഹ്യങ്ങള്" എന്ന പേരില് പ്രചരിപ്പിക്കുകയും ചെയ്തു തുടങ്ങി. ഇത്തരം ഐതീഹ്യങ്ങളില് Teachings നു അല്ലായിരുന്നു ഊന്നല് നല്കിയിരുന്നത്, മറിച്ച് "ശക്തി" എന്നു പറയുന്ന supposed supernatural ability യെ ആണ്. ഇത്തരം കഥകള് ആണ് രാഹുള് മുന്പ് സൂചിപ്പിച്ചതു പോലെ നമ്മുടെ പൈതൃകത്തിനെ "അമര് ചിത്രകഥകള്" ആക്കി മാറ്റിയതും ഇന്നത്തെ തലമുറയെ അതില് നിന്നു അകറ്റിയതും. അന്നുമുതല് ഈ നിമിഷം വരേയും ഈ പ്രക്രിയക്ക് ഒരു മാറ്റവും ഇല്ല.
1500 കളില് കൃഷ്ണനേക്കുറിച്ച് മീരാഭായിയും സൂര്ദാസും പാടി നടന്നു. മീരയുടേത് romantic ആയിരുന്നെങ്കില് സൂര്ദാസിന്റേത് philosophical ആയിരുന്നു. 1600 ല് തുളസീദാസ് തന്റെ രാമചരിതമാനസവുമായ് രംഗത്തെത്തി. വാല്മീകി രാമയണത്തിനേക്കാളും തത്വശാസ്ത്രങ്ങള്ക്കും ഭാവങ്ങള്ക്കും മുന്തൂക്കം നല്കി, ഇന്നത്തെ മെഗാ സീരിയലിനോട് കിടപിടിക്കുന്ന രീതിയിലാണ്രാമചരിതമാനസ് രചിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നത്. ഇതുപോലെ പലരും അവരവര്ക്ക് തോന്നിയ രീതിയില് re-mixകള് ഇറക്കി, ഇറക്കുന്നു, ഇറക്കിക്കൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നു. അതില് ഏറ്റവും പുതിയതെന്നു പറയുന്നത് അമ്പലങ്ങളിലെ സ്റ്റേജുകളിലും, റ്റി.വി യിലും മറ്റും നാം കാണുന്ന മിമിക്സ് ബാലേകള് ആണ്. അതൊന്നും നമ്മുടെ സംസ്കാരത്തിനെ ഒരു തരത്തിലും ബാധിക്കുന്നില്ലല്ലോ രതീഷേ???
ദൂരദര്ശനിലും മറ്റ് ചാനലുകളിലും വരുന്ന രാമാനന്ദ് സാഗറിന്റെ രാമായണവും, മഹാഭാരതവും, ശ്രീകൃഷ്ണനും ഒക്കെയാണ് ഇന്നത്തെ കുട്ടികള്ക്കു പാരമ്പര്യത്തിലേക്കുള്ള പാത. പിന്നെ രാത്രി ദേവീ മാഹാത്മ്യം, സ്വാമി അയ്യപ്പന്, വിശ്ശുദ്ധ അല്ഫോണ്സാമ്മ, ശ്രീകൃഷ്ണലീല, ശ്രീഗുരുവായൂരപ്പന് എന്നീ ലേബലുകളില് "സോപ്പുകള്" വേറേയും. ഈ സീരിയലുകളില് 5% ഭക്തിയും ബാക്കി 95% കൊട്ടാരത്തിലേയോ, നാട്ടിലേയോ സ്ത്രീജനങ്ങളുടേയോ പുരുഷകേസരികളുടേയോ കണ്ണീരും, കുശുമ്പും, കുന്നായ്മയും അല്ലേ കാണിക്കുന്നത്? ഇതൊന്നും സംസ്കാരവിരുദ്ധമല്ലേ?
Ratheesh:- "ഭാരതത്തിലെ നാലില് മൂന്ന് വരുന്ന ഭൂരിഭാഗം ജനങ്ങളും പൂജിച്ച് വിശ്വസിച്ച് വരുന്ന ശ്രീരാമനേയും സീതാദേവിയേയും ഹിന്ദുമതത്തില് അടിയുറച്ച് വിശ്വസിക്കുന്ന ഒരു വിശ്വാസി എന്ന നിലക്ക് നഗ്നരായി ചിത്രീകരിച്ചാല് അതുപൊറുക്കാനും മാത്രം വിശാലമനസ്കനല്ല ഞാന്."
രതീഷിനെ ഞാന് "Idol worshipper" എന്നു വിളിച്ചോട്ടേ?? താങ്കളുടെ മനസ്സില് പതിഞ്ഞ രാജ രവിവര്മ്മയുടെ Oleograph ചിത്രങ്ങള് എം.എഫ്. ഹുസേന്റെ Contemporary artwork' ന്റ് മുന്നില് ഛിന്നഭിന്നമായതിന്റെ ഷോക്ക് ആണ് രതീഷിന്റെ വാക്കുകള് സൂചിപ്പിക്കുന്നത്. Satyam Computers ഉടമ ശ്രീ. രാമലിംഗ രാജുവിനെ ഒരു Idol ആയി മനസ്സില് ആരാധിച്ചു നടന്നിരുന്ന employees'നു അദ്ദേഹം കുറ്റക്കാരന് അണെന്ന് വിശ്വസിക്കാന് ആദ്യം ഭയങ്കര പ്രയാസം ആയിരുന്നു. പക്ഷേ കാലം അത് തെളിയിച്ചു. ഇതേ മാനസികാവസ്ഥ തന്നെയല്ലേ രതീഷിനും.
Ratheesh:- "പിന്നെ നഗ്നത എന്നത് ഒരു കുറ്റമല്ല മനുഷ്യപുത്രാ. ആസ്ട്രേലിയായിലും സിംബാവേയിലും തുടങ്ങി ഒരുപാട് Asian Australian European രാജ്യങ്ങളില്.....
......ആ സംസ്ക്കാരം നമ്മുടെ ഭാരത സംസ്കാരത്തിന് യോജിച്ചതല്ല. ഹോളിവുഡിലെ നടികള് ഒരു ഡ്രസ്സ് മാറുന്ന ലാഘവത്തോടെയാണ് സ്വന്തം കാമുകന്മാരെയും ഭര്ത്താക്കന്മാരേയും മാറുന്നത്... അത് നമ്മുടെ സംസ്ക്കാരമാണോ?? "
പണം കൊടുത്താല് കൊടുക്കുന്ന പണത്തിന്റെ മൂല്യത്തിനുള്ളതോ, അതിലും കൂടിയതോ ആയ Prostitute or Guy കിട്ടും....ഇതിനൊക്കെ അങ്ങ് Middle East, Australia, Africa ല് ഒന്നും പോകണ്ടാ.. നമ്മുടെ കൊച്ചു കേരളം ആ രാജ്യങ്ങളെ കടത്തി വെട്ടും. ഹോളിവുഡ് നടിമാരേക്കാളും നാണംകെട്ട രീതിയില് അല്ലേ നമ്മുടെ ബോളീവുഡ് നടിമാര്. ഇന്നലെ ഉദിച്ച ദീപിക പദുകോണിന്റെ അഭിനയിച്ച ചിത്രങ്ങളുടെ എണ്ണത്തേക്കാളും വരുമല്ലോ അവര് മൂന്നു ചിത്രത്തിനിടയ്ക്കു മാറിയ കാമുകന്മാരുടെ എണ്ണം. ഇതുപോലെ എത്ര എത്ര ഉദാഹരണങ്ങള്. സ്വന്തം മുറ്റമടിച്ചിട്ടു പോരേ ഹോളിവുഡില് പോകുന്നത്?
Ratheesh:- "...അവിടെ വരച്ചിട്ടുള്ള ചിത്രത്തില് ഭഗവാന് ധരിച്ചിരിക്കുന്ന വസ്ത്രത്തിന് സുതാര്യത ഉണ്ടോ... ദേവി മാറ് മറക്കാതാണോ ഇരിക്കുന്നത് എന്നൊന്നും നോക്കുന്നതിനല്ല... ഒരു യഥാര്ത്ഥ വിശ്വാസി എന്തായാലും അത്തരത്തില് നോക്കുകയും ഇല്ല. ..."
Manushyaputhran:- ഇതേ യദ്ധാര്ഥ വിശ്വാസി പിന്നെ എങ്ങനെ നോക്കുമ്പോഴാണ് ഹുസേന്റെ ചിത്രങ്ങളിള് മാത്രം നഗ്നത ദര്ശിക്കുന്നത്? അങ്ങനെയാണെങ്കില് താങ്കള് പറഞ്ഞുവരുന്നത് ഹുസേന്റെ സീതയില് നഗ്നത ദര്ശിച്ച രാഹുളും, താങ്കളും യധാര്ഥ വിശ്വാസികള് അല്ലെന്നല്ലേ? ക്ഷേത്രച്ചുമരില് ആണെങ്കിലും ശരി വീട്ടിലെ ചുമരില് ആണെങ്കിലും ശരി ഒരു ചിത്രം ചിത്രം തന്നെയല്ലേ??
Ratheesh:- "...മാധുരി ദീക്ഷിത്തിന്റെ ഒരു ഫിലിം കാണുന്നതിന് അദ്ദേഹം ചെലവഴിച്ച പണം ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നെന്കില് നമ്മുടെ ഭാരതത്തിലെ പണമില്ലാത്തതുകൊണ്ട് മാത്രം വിവാഹം വൈകുന്ന ഒരു പത്ത് യുവതികളുടെ കല്യാണം വളരെ ഈസിയായി നടത്താമായിരുന്നു..."
Manushyaputhran :- ഹുസേന് സ്വന്തമായിട്ടുണ്ടാക്കിയ പണം അദ്ദേഹത്തിനു എങ്ങനെ വേണമെങ്കിലും ഉപയോഗിക്കാം. രതീെസ്സ് ബെറുതേ മുട്ടുന്യായം നിരത്തല്ലേ. താങ്കള് പറഞ്ഞ രീതിയിലാണെങ്കില് ഒരു കാറുവാങ്ങുന്ന കാശുണ്ടെങ്കില് 100 പാവങ്ങള്ക്കു സൈക്കിള് വാങ്ങാലോ, 5സ്റ്റാര് ഹൊട്ടേലീന്ന് ഒരു ചായകുടിക്കുന്ന കാശുമതിയല്ലോ ഒരു പാവപ്പെട്ടവന് ഒരു ദിവസത്തെ ഭക്ഷണത്തിന്. രാഹുള് ഈശ്വര് കുര്ത്തയടിക്കുന്ന തുണി മതിയല്ലോ ഒരു നഴ്സറി ക്ലാസ്സിലെ എല്ലാ കുട്ടികള്ക്കും കര്ച്ചീഫ് അടിക്കാന്, കാവ്യാ മാധവന് തലയില് തേയ്ക്കുന്ന അത്രേം എണ്ണ മതിയല്ലോ ഒരു പാവപ്പെട്ടവന്റെ വീട്ടില് മീന് പൊള്ളിക്കാന്, ബ്യൂട്ടീപാര്ളറില് ഉപയോഗിച്ച് വലിച്ചെറിയുന്ന അത്രേം വെല്ലരിക്കാ മതിയല്ലോ രണ്ട് വീട്ടുകാര്ക്ക് പച്ചടി വെക്കാന്.... മുതലാളീമാര്ക്കും ജീവിക്കണ്ടേ രതീസ്സ്ക്കുമാറേെ.....
രതീഷിനു സാമൂഹ്യസേവനം അത്രയ്ക്കിഷ്ടാണേല് വീടും പറമ്പും ഒക്കെ വല്ല ധര്മ്മസ്താപനത്തിനും എഴുതിക്കൊടുത്തിട്ട് അത് കണ്ട് രസിക്ക്.
Ratheesh:- "...ദൂരെ നിന്ന് ഒരു നഗ്നയായ സ്ത്രീ പിന് തിരിഞ്ഞ് നില്ക്കുന്നകണ്ടാല് എല്ലാ ആണുങ്ങളും sexually aroused അകും ആകണം അതാണ് പ്രകൃതി നിയമം.."
Manushyaputhran:-ചിത്രം സിനിമയില് മോഹന്ലാല് പറഞ്ഞ ഒരു വാചകം ഞാന് കടം എടുത്തോട്ടേ..."എന്ത് രസകരമായ നിയമം."
എത്ര ദൂരെ നിന്നാണെങ്കിലും ശരി ഒരു സ്ത്രീ നഗ്നയായി നില്ക്കുന്നതു കണ്ടാല് ഉടന് "Aroused" ആകുന്നതിനെ നിയമം എന്നല്ല, "രോഗം" എന്നാണ് വിളിക്കേണ്ടത്. ഈ രോഗം സാധാരണ ആയി കണ്ടു വരുന്നത് "കാമം" കരഞ്ഞു തീര്ക്കുന്ന അവിവാഹിതരോ, വിവാഹ ശേഷം പങ്കാളിയില് സംത്രിപ്തി പോരാഞ്ഞ് അതു മറ്റെവിടെന്നെങ്കിലും സംഖടിപ്പിക്കാന് വെമ്പല് കൊണ്ടു നടക്കുന്ന ചില ഞരമ്പു രോഗികളിലും ആണ്. ഈ വിശേഷാല് രോഗത്തിന് ഇപ്പോള് കോട്ടക്കല് ആര്യവൈദ്യശാലയില് "പച്ചമടലിന് അടി", "പുളിങ്കൊമ്പിന് അടി", "തിരണ്ടിവാലിന് അടി" എന്നിങ്ങനെ ചില പുതിയ ചികിത്സാ വിധികള് കണ്ടെത്തിയെന്ന് ഈയിടെ പത്രത്തില് വായിച്ചു.
HAH AHAHHAH HAHA HA HA
I cant help laughing.
Dear Manushyaputra....
Dear Brother....LEftist history matram vayichal aniyanu satyam manasilakuka ella.
See dear brother, Romila Thaper, Panikker, Rajan Gurukkal, Sreedhara Menon...Their half baked and cooked lies are not history. They are glorified stories to divide Hindu society.
MANUSHYAPUTRA....YOUR VERSION OF HISTORY IS ENTIRELY HALF TRUTH. IT IS THE "LEFT" VERSION. NOT THE RIGHT VERSION. Or rather it is the "WRONG" VERSION.
I understand, these youngsters are totally misguided. Dear Brother, try reading history of a different version. I dont say that u believe it. Just read some other version of history than the left history.
Such bunch of lies. brother I feel sad about our youngsters who are injected with these half truths. I hope as time evolves u will understand the true history or atleast be IMPARTIAL in enquiry into Indian history.
Dear Manushyaputra....
Arante ammaku branthu pidichal kanan rasamanu. The problem with u leftists is that they dont consider nationhood as mother, they dont have the passion for the concept of nation. Aa commitment ningalku undakum kalathu manasilakum.
Janani Janmabhumischa Swargadapi gariyasi - mother & Motherland are higher than heaven.
രാഹുളിന്റെ മുയലിന് മൂന്നുകൊമ്പാണെന്നു വീണ്ടും തെളിയിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു...
റൊമീല ഥാപ്പറൊക്കെ ജ്യേഷ്ഠന്റെ മുന്നില് വെറും കഥ എഴുത്തുകാരാണെന്നു ആണെന്നു ഈ അനിയന് അറിയില്ലായിരുന്നു. ഒന്നു ചോദിച്ചോട്ടേ ജ്യേഷ്ഠന് ഈ LEFT എന്ന പദം കൊണ്ട് ഉദ്ദേശ്ശിക്കുന്നത് ജ്യേഷ്ഠന്റെ uncivilized ചിന്തകളെ എതിര്ക്കുകയും പുരോഗമനപരമായി ചിന്തിക്കുകയും ചെയ്യുന്നവരെയാണോ?
ആരാന്റമ്മയ്ക്ക് ഭ്രാന്ത് പിടിച്ചാല് കണ്ട് രസിക്കുന്നത് രാഹുളിന്റെ സംസ്കാരം ആയിരിക്കും. എല്ലാരും അതുപോലെയാാണ് എന്നു കരുതിയോ? ചാനലില് Motherland, Nationhood എന്നൊക്കെ പ്രസംഗിച്ച് നടന്നാല് രാഹുളിന്റെ വീട്ടിലെ അടുപ്പില് തീ പുകയുമായിരിക്കും, പക്ഷേ ബാക്കിയുള്ളവര്ക്ക് അങ്ങനെയല്ലല്ലോ.
ധീരാ വീരാ രാഹുളേ....
ധീരതയോടെ നയിച്ചോളൂ...
ഇങ്ങനെ ഒരു മുദ്രാവാക്യം ഭാവിയില് കേള്ക്കട്ടേ എന്നു ഞാന് ആശംസിക്കുന്നു...
വെറുതേ 1100 എണ്ണം തികയ്ക്കാന് ഇട്ട ഒരു comment ആണ്..
Dear Manushyaputhra,
Arguing for the sake of it is, might be your own way!! I am not telling anything for that, because you are moulded in that way!i cant help it...
But still u can try to understand or try to accept the truths and facts!
Some of you or almost every one would be knowing about Hussain's famous painting about the four leaders. In that hitler was depicted as nude by MFH. during an interview, MFhussain itself stated that he depicted hitler as nude, because he wanted to humiliate hitler, because he hate hitler's way! if any one who watch it also gets the same feel...(all the other 3 leaders were depicted in their own dressing style)
Shows the nude depiction is a way for MFH to humiliate the depicted one...Implies nudity is not the pure or worshipped form in MFH's view itself...or might be manushyaputhraa, u can deny the statement for the sake of argument that MFH admired Hitler more than Marx, Gandhiji or Einstein.
If you dont have any point to argue, it is not necessary that u have to tell something!best wishes anyway!
Rahul, yes! Keep up the good work!
Jai hind!Vande mataram!
Rahul,
You told "If Madhavikutty and Gloria Steinem's examples which you quote are anything to go by, 'these pseudo liberal writers' actually strengthens all the things which you accuse them of destroying!"
Dear brother, what are you talking. What did they strengthen.
It was a logical conclusion derived from your own statement-
"...and at last she told, "I was wrong, a women needs love & protection first, then only freedom."(Madhavikutty, quoted by you). "She mislead(sic) our women folk for decades and at last realised that she was in the wrong path. Same happend with the famous feminist, Gloria steinem, after preaching feminism, and "marriage as male chauvinism" for 25 years, she got married by the age of 56."
When Taslima ridicules family system, vouches for sexual anarchy, is family strengthened?
Does she ridicule family system, vouch for sexual anarchy?
Be very specific if you have found it to be so.
And it is not right to have a blind muslim anger.
True, three eminently avoidable words that even independent of each other should be avoided, not to mention any combination of them.
It is not right, it is not our culture.
As I said, agree totally with the sentiments, even without the stamp of 'approval from our culture'.
Hussain and Taslima are 2 sides of the same coin.
Never seen a coin with even one in any side!
That apart, it is being too simplistic to paint them in the same bracket.
Similar to saying 'Hinduism and Islam essentially teach the same thing'. ' Both are the same',
and 'Muslim extremists and Hindu extremists are all alike'.
It merely shows intellectual lassitude.
Just put them in boxes with labels and pack them away. So simple.
...for the short term. But a pandora's box for the long term.
Allahu Akbar...and There is no one but Allah. Dear brother it is only an expression.
It is only like "Swamiyillathoru Saranam illa Ayyappa"...
Correction.
The former is the unquestionable declaration from mosques everyday of the year five times. It is the call to faithfuls to pay obeisance to Allah, the only God. It is also the central teaching of Islam. Anybody with a different idea is a kafir. And kafirs get a real bad time from Islam.
The latter is merely lyrics of a popular song.
We worship VIshnu, Siva, Devi, Hanuman etc. Does that mean there is no Saranam in them.
You know the answer to that.
Hinduism allows individual freedom to worship or not worship any number of Gods, unlike Islam or Christianity.
Dear brother, respecting sensitivites does not mean pseudo secularism.
Correct.
It is the overdoing that means it.
To the detriment of one's nation, culture and ultimately, the way of life.
We, our history, our heritage teaches to respect and accept all.
True. But the 'we' here starts and ends with Hindus.
Islam does not suffer such grandiose ideas. Kashi, Somnath, Ayodhya, Bamiyan Buddha attest to that.
Nor does Christianity. They would love to convert you into sheep for their shepherd.
And who so ever is not sensitive to the sensibilities of a billion people, who can cause problem and issues between sections should not be encouraged, never be encouraged at any cost.
It would be more appropriate to say-
Whosoever is not sensitive to the threat that his nation and civilisation faces, who does not understand the cause of problems and issues between sections, should be encouraged to be more sensible.
Dear Manushyaputra...
Left ennulathu right nte opposite aanu.
Wrong ennulathum right inte opposite aanu.
Aadyathe right inoppum alla njan, randamethetinoppavum.
See dear Manushyaputra...There are 2 versions of Indian history. One is the Marxist history and the other RSS history. Both have certain truths in it, but many facts are overlooked, exaggragted for their own ideological purpose.
For eg: The purpose of Left in Indian history is to DIVIDE Hindus. Exaggerate the differences, glorify all the bad elements.
and RSS history, just the opposite. UNITE the Hindus. downplay the differences, sideline all the wrong happend.
Both are academically wrong. Both Romila Thapar and M.G.S Narayanan are great academicians, but are selectively silent on any uncomfortable questions their bias faces. Nor is Sreedhara Menon nor Rajan Gurukal bias free.
The truth lies some where in between RSS history and Marxist history. In an academic discussion i will only take the impartial line and if i have to choose one out of 2 half truths, I will not choose Marxist version.
Why do u want people to fight in the name of caste. Why do u want to glorify the bad things, why do u want to make communities fight in between?
Marxist party wants that, because in it their is its vote bank.
If Hindu unity happens, if Nair-Ezhava Aikyam happens, Marxist party will loose its major share of vote banks in Kerala, If all caste and communities unite under Hindu banner, communist party will loose its basic vote bank in all places in India. SO they want communities to clash, they always project the so-called savarna avarna divide. THey project the illusory word 'dalit' and tell 'dalits' are being ,mistreated by the so-called uppercaste. It is a game plan.
But from Nayadi to Namboothiri, from Ambalavasi to Adivasi..they are realising the game plan of the leftist movements. One day they will unite defeating the forces of division and divide and rule policy. One day we will unite.
Dear Incognito...
I understand ur passion, ur patriotism, ur commitment for our nation.
I was in Delhi some weeks back. I met a group of Kashmiri Pundits who were thrown out in Kashmir by Pakistani militants. They have lost everything, their life, their property, their family.
Hundreds of Hindu girls were raped. Crores worth propety were destroyed, Thousands were attacked and killed.
And one person their asked me "we are hurt, and humiliated. But the more hurting thing is that no one knows our pain, no one realises our tragedy."
When 100's of people are killed in COmmunal violence in north India or other parts, every one knows, every one raises hue and cry, media gives great importance.
But how many know ur pain, our girls were brutally raped, 1000's of us were killed. 10,000's became handicapped. Family properties of crores, where property was worshipped for 1000s of years were seized.....No media talks abt it. No one cries for it. No Human rights commission cares, no international agencies bother, no channel discussions are made. Are we second class citizens.
Even raping ONE girl is insult to the whole nation and womanhood. Even killing a person is like killing Humanity. But sad our leftist intellectuals and pseudo secular media even has COMMUNALISED Rapes and Killings.
When Saddam Hussain is hanged, THey observe Hartals, when Palestinians are attacked, they stick posters and conduct public meetings...It doesnt hurt them when it hurt Indians...
And Dear Incognito...
The War on Terror can be won, if we have the confidence of all communities. We have to take them into confidence. It is true that "Nyuna pakshathe oru Nyuna Paksham teevravadathilekku pokunnu"
Pakshe Nyuna Pakshathe Bhuripaksham, Bhuripakshathe Bhuripakshathe pole sadhukkalum, pavangalum aanu". As Our great President Abdul Kalam Sir told, we have to destroy terrorist camps in and out of India, before that we have to make sure, that there are no terrorist sympathisers here and we also have to make sure that no international terrorist lobby can fund money here, spread the idea that "world over our community is being attacked, now it is time to take the holy revenge".
Our good and patriotic Muslim Brotherhood should be taken into confidence. The internation terrorist lobbies want all Muslims to feels insecure, they want Muslim brothers to raise a slogan that "Muslims are not terrorists". As if some body is telling All Muslims are terrorists. They want to make a global Muslim identity and say that "Muslim world is being attacked"..In fact there is no Muslim world, There are Indian Muslims, Irani Muslims, Pakistani Muslims, Indonesian Muslims...The Jehadi lobby want to misuse the word "Jihad" and "Muslim" and create an INTERNATIONAL MUSLIM, who they say is being attacked.
Let us not fall for their trap, let us not leave our Muslims and some 'young, immature mind' into their global game plan. Dear Incognito, i am telling again, let us not fall into their trap. I have seriously studied international ISLAM "IST" terrorism, their network, their media, their game plan.
They have an alarming number of sleeper cells, and deceptive Propaganda machinery. We have to carry out this war in a very delicate and sensitive way.
If their holy war is for god, our holy war is for our nation. And we shall win it, win it with the help of all the gods
It is our duty to preserve this Freedom!
Carry this forward to the future!
No nation is perfect,
it needs to be made perfect”
We did, We do, and We will do!!!
Happy Republic Day
Dear Rahul,
There is a story about three rabbits here that may carry some meaning for you.
Dear Incognito...
The problem with such analogies, similies and stories is that they want to give a particular idea, then make a fiction around it. and convey the philosophy through that fiction.
It is the same as saying "you cannot change the tide in the sea, but u can learn to swim."
The issue with both the statements is that life is neither a sea, nor are we rabbits, nor life is like a road where we travel.
If Gandhiji thought like that, If a Martin Luther king thought like that, if Shankaracharya thought like that...some times people can change the tide, tides of the time.
Vandee Mataram
Correct.
If you feel that is the path you should follow, Go Ahead.
Blaze your way to Glory.
May the power of the Universe travel with You.
ഞാനിവിടെ LEFT & RIGHT പറഞ്ഞിട്ടില്ലല്ലോ? താങ്കള്ക്കു അങ്ങീകരിക്കാന് ബുദ്ധിമുട്ടുള്ളതിനെയൊക്കെ താങ്കള് അല്ലേ "LEFT" എന്നു മുദ്രകുത്തുന്നത്?
"Opposite of left is RIGHT".
എല്ലാത്തിനേം LEFT എന്നു മുദ്രകുത്തുമ്പോള് സ്വാഭാവികമായും വായനക്കാരന് താങ്കളുടെ വാദമുഖങ്ങളെ RIGHT (ശരി) ആയി തെറ്റിദ്ധരിക്കും. അതെല്ലേ ഈ ബ്ലോഗില് ആദ്യം മുതല് അവസാനം വരെ സംഭവിച്ചുകൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നതും രാഹുള് ഈശ്വറിന്റെ തുറുപ്പു ചീട്ടും?
"One day they will unite defeating the forces of division and divide and rule policy. One day we will unite."
...നടക്കാത്ത എന്തു നല്ല സ്വപ്നങ്ങള്...
വരുന്ന Election'നു ഒരു കൈ നോക്കണം കേട്ടോ...ചിലപ്പോള് രക്ഷപ്പെട്ടേക്കും.
@ Sood
If you don't know the language of art, learn it first. Dont believe misrepresentations forwarded by other people, I mean RIGHT people. Sometimes you need to use your LEFT brain when exploring "Art", because Art is an unbrain process carried over by the left side of brain. Dont forget that a painting includes thoughts also.
@ Manushyaputhran
manushyaputhraa, then you please tell me the reason for the nude hitler in that "four leaders"!!!
@ manushyaputhran
Your statement: "Art is an unbrain process carried over by the left side of brain."
No Manushyaputhraa... Art is not an unbrain process! The right part of the brain is responsible for one's artistic talent! The left part of the brain can nourish it and support it! The left part is for reasoning, logic, knowledge, learning etc. If the left part is not functioning the person would be dyslexic. Many Great artists, I mean real artists-not publicity seekers-, were dyslexic(picasso and da vinci are famous examples). The people who are not dyslexic will apply their logical and reasoning ability too while they depicts the picture.As you told, yes, paintings involved thoughts too! and that is the problem with MFH's work. He depicted Hitler as Nude in his famous "four leaders" work. and the same MFH depicted the nude Bharat mata and Hindu Goddess!!! he never reported for any type of Dyslexic syndrome!!!
I am repeating, the argument for the sake of it will not be worthy!!But unfortunately u are moulded in that way!
@ others ... I am sorry for being silly here! it is just an answer to manushyaputhran's query!
Manushyaputran said "
"One day they will unite defeating the forces of division and divide and rule policy. One day we will unite."
...നടക്കാത്ത എന്തു നല്ല സ്വപ്നങ്ങള്... "
THANK YOU MANUSHYAPUTRA FOR SHOWING UR TRUE COLOURS..
Our Muslim brotherhood can unite,
Our Christian brotherhood can unite
Why cant Hindus unite...
We respect and accept Muslims, Christians
BUT WHAT IS THE PROBLEM IN HINDUS UNITING.
WHy is it that "enthu nalla nadakatha Swapnam"
Let all the Hindus, see Manushyaputrans post...He says Hindu Aikyam, HIndu unity should not be there.
WHY CANT WE UNITE...I request all the people of all religions who read this blog, to understand our sensibilities, WHY ARE THE PEOPLE AGAINST US, WHY CANT WE UNITE.
When we talk of unity, they want to divide us...And let it be clear, we were 'divided and ruled' for centuries. And time has come, we will unite not against any one, but for ourselves..And we will unite for we know, there is no body else to take care of the silent suffering majority.
Jai Hind
Easwer: Our Muslim brotherhood can unite, Our Christian brotherhood can unite...
ഈ വര്ഷത്തെ ഏറ്റവും വല്ല്യ തമാശ.
ചേട്ടന് കൊട്ടിഘോഷിക്കുന്ന ഈ Muslim brotherhood'നു അകത്തു തന്നെ ഉണ്ട് Ansari, Rowther, Sheikh, Shia, Sunni, Syed...ഇങ്ങനെ ജാതിപ്പോരുകള്. Anglo, Catholic, Csi, Jacobite, Marthomite, Nadar, Orthodox, Pentecost, Roman...ക്രിസ്ത്യാനികളും പിന്നിലല്ല. ഹിന്ദുക്കളുടെ ജാതി എഴുതാന് ഈ സ്ഥലം തികയില്ലാ എന്ന കാരണത്താല് തല്ക്കാലം അതു ഇവിടെ വിളമ്പുന്നില്ല.
എന്തിനാ രാഹുളേ ഈ Muslim brotherhood'ം Christian brotherhood'ം ഒക്കെ "Unite" ചെയ്യുന്നത്?
To fight against their common enemey, aka, Hindu brotherhood or
സ്വന്തം മതത്തിന്റേയോ/സമുദായത്തിന്റെയോ ഉന്നമനത്തിനു വേണ്ടിയോ
or
രാഷ്ട്രീയ ലക്ഷ്യങ്ങള്ക്കു വേണ്ടിയോ
or
രാഹുള് ചെയ്യുന്നത് പോലെ, cheap publicity'ക്ക് വേണ്ടിയോ ആയിരിക്കും.
അല്ലാതെ ചേട്ടന് കിടന്ന് അലമുറയിടുന്നത് പോലെ നവഭാരതം കെട്ടിപ്പടുക്കാന് വേണ്ടി ഇവരാരും കൈ കോര്ത്ത് പിടിച്ചതായി ഇവിടെ ആര്ക്കും അറിയില്ല. ഇങ്ങനെ, ഒരു വിഭാഗത്തിനെ ക്ഷയിപ്പിക്കാന് വേണ്ടി മറ്റൊരു വിഭാഗം ഒരുമിക്കുന്നതിനെയാണോ ചേട്ടന് "സാഹോദര്യം" എന്നു ഉദ്ദേശ്ശിക്കുന്നത്? എങ്കില്, അത്തരം ഒരു സാഹോദര്യത്തില് പങ്കുചേരുന്നതിലും കൂടുതല് ഞാന് ഇഷ്ടപ്പെടുന്നത് രാജ്യദ്രോഹി എന്നു വിളിക്കപ്പെടാന് ആണ്.
Easwer: Why cant Hindus unite... We respect and accept Muslims, Christians
You dont even respect Hindus. പൂജാവിധികള് ഒക്കെ ബ്രാഹ്മണന്മാരെക്കാളും നന്നായി അറിയാവുന്നതും, ചെയുന്നതും ആയ എത്രയോ മറ്റ് ജാതിക്കാര് ഇവിടെ ഉണ്ട്, അവര് ആരെങ്കിലും ശബരിമലയില് പൂജകള് ചെയ്യാന് വന്നാല് നിങ്ങള് സമ്മതിക്കുമോ? പണ്ട് ഈ പേരും പറഞ്ഞിട്ടല്ലേ രാഹുള് നിങ്ങളൊക്കെ കേസിനു പോയത്?
Easwer: BUT WHAT IS THE PROBLEM IN HINDUS UNITING. WHy is it that "enthu nalla nadakatha Swapnam" Let all the Hindus, see Manushyaputrans post...He says Hindu Aikyam, HIndu unity should not be there.
രാഹുളേ കണ്ണിനും വിരലിനും വേറേ കുഴപ്പങ്ങള് ഒന്നും തന്നെ ഇല്ലെങ്കില് പേജ് ഒന്നു സ്ക്രോള് ചെയ്ത് എന്റെ comment ഒന്നുകൂടി വായിക്കണം...
"One day they will unite defeating the forces of division and divide and rule policy. One day we will unite."
ഈ ഒരു ലൈന് ആണ് ഞാന് ഹെയിലൈറ്റ് ചെയ്തത്... അതില് എവിടെയാണ് ഞാന് ഹിന്ദു, ഹിന്ദു ഐക്യം, Hindu unity എന്നൊക്കെ പറഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നത്? ഞാന് ഈ ദേശത്തിന്റെ മൊത്തം കാര്യം പറയുമ്പോള് ചേട്ടന് അല്ലേ അതില് ഹിന്ദുക്കളെ മാത്രം പ്രത്യേകം filter ചെയുന്നത്. ഈ ബ്ലോഗ് വായിക്കുന്ന ഹിന്ദുക്കളുടെ വികാരം എനിക്കെതിരെ തിരിച്ചുവിടുക എന്നതാണല്ലോ അതില് കൊച്ചേട്ടന്റെ ഉദ്ദേശ്ശ്യം. അപ്പോള് ആരാണ് ഇവിടെ Divide and Rule policy അപ്പ്ലൈ ചെയ്തത്?
Easwer: And we will unite for we know, there is no body else to take care of the silent suffering majority.
"Silent Suffering Majority"...പ്രാചീന ചിന്തകളും ആശയങ്ങളും തൊഴിലുകളും വിശ്വാസങ്ങളും പാരമ്പര്യങ്ങളും പെരുമയും കെട്ടിപ്പിടിച്ചിരുന്നു ജീവിതം പൊട്ടിപൊളിഞ്ഞു കുത്തുപാളയെടുത്ത ബ്രാഹ്മണന്മാര്ക്കും നായന്മാര്ക്കും കിട്ടിയ പുതിയ പേര്. Reservation, Quota എന്നിങ്ങനെ വാക്കുകളുടെ മുന്നില് അടിയറവ് പറയേണ്ടി വന്ന ചില പാവം ജന്മങ്ങള്.
നമ്മുടെ ഭരണഘടനയുടെ കൊണം കൊണ്ടു കൂടെയാണ് ഇന്നു ബ്രാഹ്മണ / നായര് സമുദായ(ത്തില് ചിലര്) വളരെയധികം ക്ഷയിച്ചതെന്ന വസ്തുത ഞാന് മറച്ചുവയ്ക്കുന്നില്ല. Silent Suffering Majority എന്നു തന്നെയാണ് ഞാനും ഇത്തരക്കാരെ വിളിക്കുന്നത്, ആ word തന്നെ രാഹുളും ഉപയോഗിച്ചതാണ് മേല്പ്പറഞ്ഞ വാചകത്തിനു പ്രചോദനം..
PS: ഈ വാചകങ്ങള്ക്കു ജീവിച്ചിരിന്നവരോ, ജീവിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നവരോ, ജീവിക്കാനിരിക്കുന്നവരോ ആയിട്ടും, എന്റെ കയ്യില് നിന്നും കാശ് കടം വാങ്ങിയവരോ, ഞാന് കടം വാങ്ങിയവരോ, വാങ്ങാന് ഉദ്ദേശ്ശിക്കുന്നവരുമായോ യാതോരു പുല ബന്ധവും ഇല്ലാ എന്നു അറിയിച്ചുകൊള്ളുന്നു
@ manushyaputhran!
Manushyaputhraa,
Rahul used the term "silent suffering majority" to describe the whole Hindus, not to describe any so called brahmin/Nair. Any Average man can understand it from the context! And majority who suffers in India is Hindus! If you really didn’t get it from the context means……..all others are helpless man! You are dyslexic. Do some mental exercise!! Blind politics with out seeing the rights and wrongs or pos and cons will not help any one man! Don’t try to see each every thing on the light of it.(just an advice… I am very sure that you are not going to do it.) Think by yourself instead of following the wrong! Arguing for the sake of your so called politics and manipulating others words for the sake of it won’t help you much to grow personally too!! Best wishes any way!
Manushyaputhraa, the whole people now know what your intention is! The whole people who read this knw Rahul was not doing or specifying anything for any caste/creed etc. They can understand his vision. His zest for it! He was/is doing it for Mother India!
Manushyaputhraa, people of your cult will never understand it! You are molded in that way! In fact the people of your cult is the problem that nation faces today!
Jai hind!
@ Rahul
Yes Rahul! We will unite. We will unite soon.
All Hindus will unite. All the people who are nurtured and nourished at the bank of river Sindhu are Hindus and they all are Indians. We will unite.. We will work for it! Vande mataram...Jai hind!
"We will unite. We will unite soon.
All Hindus will unite. All the people who are nurtured and nourished at the bank of river Sindhu are Hindus and they all are Indians. We will unite.. We will work for it! Vande mataram...Jai hind!"
Shame on you. Your comment is a perfect example of "Divide and Rule Policy".
What about the hindus at Gujarath, Maharashtra, Karnataka, Tamilnadu, Orissa, Bihar, Andhra... Does they come under "Silent Suffering Majority"?
@ Sood/Easwer
"...The whole people who read this knw Rahul was not doing or specifying anything for any caste/creed etc. They can understand his vision. His zest for it! He was/is doing it for Mother India!"
I'm afraid!
@ manushyaputhran
That is why i am telling you are dyslexic. Can't understand things! Cant even think! U are molded in that way!Best wishes any way!
Jai hind!
@ Manushyaputhraa, Come on man! Nothing to feel "AFRAID" of!!... :p
Try to grow personally...:)
A general comment. Thought to put it.
The people who wont reveal their identity would be thinking they can write what ever comes at the finger tips.. They are thinking they can manipulate any one's comments in any of their foolish and immature way!
People are different. Cant help it..but still.
Some people utilize technology for a good purpose... And some others to write substandard comments.the second category is doing so, because of their own ignorance. They think they are safe under their mask. they feels they can put any manipulated and sub standard comments infront of the crowd by putting the mask. they are not knowing the fact that, it is only they are blind folded not the whole world! Whenever a technology provides you any facility, remember the same technology has got if else condition too in the program. :) Best wishes any way!
Expecting the very same "I'm afraid" comment as the reply.:p
Jai Hind!
DEAR MANUSHYAPUTRA...
AVIDAYANU PRASNAM. I understand and appreciate ur views. BUT U R SERIOUSLY M I S I N F O R M E D.
Ask any one in Devasom Boards.
1) My Family was the first family to take Poojaris from all Communities!!. If you dont trust me. Ask people concerned.
We took poojaris from SNDP, Nair and some other communities.
BUT YOU PEOPLE ARE GUIDED BY MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGNS.
2) When Gandhiji came in 1931-32 to our Illam in connection to Guruvayoor satyagraha, he says in 2 places "I am happy to come to Tazhamon, for everyone is accepted here beyond caste lines) - The Epic of Travancore - Mahadeva Deshai.
All the communities were accepted for centuries, same like in Sabarimala, where for centuries all castes and religions were accepted.
3) When we say of temple entry proclamations, politicians easily leave out Sabarimala, Achankovil, Aryankavu, Sastha temples where all castes were accepted for milleniums with our any distinctions. You know why, otherwise blind generalisation that 'castes are being discriminated' cannot be told, 'you cannot even a temple cannot be told'.
4) Check the recent Guruvayoor Ahindu Praveshanam controversy.
I took the maximum effort to organise the entry of all into temples irrespective of caste and religion, but what happend? BEcause of the ego clashes of Mantri and Tantri, the idea failed.
5) And the sad reality of leftist reforms and Hindu society is that, Left was one of the great reform movements who modified hindu comunity along with SNDP, NSS, Yogakshema Sabha etc..But Left dont appreciate the sensitivities, and as a party they should take Hindu community into confidence and initiate reforms. Left's intentions were many times right, but their approach was wrong.
What Left did was write blatant lies in history to divide Hindu community so that they can make vote banks.
For eg: in the recent 7th standard book, it is written "some where given foods mixed with cowdung". "some communities were made to eat in ECHIL ilas"
SUCH BLATANT lies. and in the reference book for these 7th students, 12 years students
YATRA - Kattilum Nattilum says "Dalits in India manytimes eat food in excretion"
"Visargyathilanu dalitarude aaharam"
(ask any historian, even extreme left historian whether this was truth)
Oru janathayodu cheyyund drohamanu. It is a crime against nation and her people.
Left wants Muslims to unite under a slogan "Muslims are being persecuted all over India and the world by either Rss or US, so come to us, we are protecting u world over from palestine to Pakistan" "danger happend to Muslims after Russia fell down"
They can respect Muslim sentiments beyond shia/sunni/wahabi divisions.
Left in Bengal sent Taslima out because they were afraid of Muslim Vote banks.
Left in Kerala awards Hussain because we dont have a vote bank.
In Paloli commitee report, it says "NEGATIVE MARKS SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN TO MUSLIM STUDENTS IN ENTRANCE EXAM"...Many people dont believe this, ok go and check the report.
If our Hindu brothers are given reservation based on castes, it can be justified for "historic reasons" as they say.
THEN Why are Muslims given reservation. Were they historically suppressed, were they economically poor, were they politically powerless.?
The idea of giving reservation to EZHAVAS is so that, when Muslims are being given reservation, they should have some one also beneficiary of that so they will get political company.
Our Ezhava brothers will understand the game plan one day. They are increasingly realising that.
PDP - Abdul Jabbar who contested the elections in Panchayat went to Kashmir to fight Indian soldiers. WOw great. In Kerala terrorist are misleading our Muslim Youth by funding international money and ideology.
ANd left supports all anti-national elements. If you want to support Muslims, support Muslim league. support the moderates.
And it is a game plan against our nation. And it is my pleasure to be called a nationalist and fight for my nation than to be a pseduo liberal,pseudo intellectual who refuses to see the reality, closes his eyes towards empirical truths and pretend to fight reality in some ideology.
We shall win it, for our nation doesnt have any other future than for us to win it. We will win it, for thinking impartially our nation needs it.
Jai Hind
Dear Sood..
Manushyaputran, and Manivikathavaidis, Leftists, Viswamanavar what ever u call their basic intention is to divide Hindu community. At an earlier point of time, people use to fight with weapons, arms...now the fight is with ideas. So the easy way to weaken a community is by dividing it. Pakistan wants India divided, RAW plans some operations in Baluchistan so that Pakistan can be internally divided. The politics of division is the modern political game plan. and many are dividing and creating hatred. Hindu/muslim division, is one such division and saying "muslims are being persecuted" is ISI's slogan.
ANd the idea os dividing HINDUS IS THE LEFTist game plan. We should not fall for both. We should UNITE HINDUS, unite all Hindu-Muslim-Christians for India and we should make Indians aware, India is more important than religion & ideology.
last 2 lines of Saare Jahan Se Achcha - Mohammed Iqbal (1906)
Yunan o misr o roma, sab mit gaye jahan se
Ab tak magar hai baki naam or nishan hamara
Kuch baat hai ki hasti mitti nahi hamari
Sadiyon raha hai dushman, daur-e-zaman hamaara
The Greeks, Egyptians, Romans all have perished, But we still remain, our identity still remain.
There is something in this soil that defies destruction, that is beyond time, that is eternal
Saare jahan se Achcha Hindustan Haamara. Jai Hind
@ Soooo....
ഹോ.. ഹോ... ഹോ....പേടിച്ച് എന്റെ രോമം എണീറ്റ് നിക്കണൂ... ചേട്ടന് Anonymous, Proxy, Gateway, Sock server, HIPA, HMI... എന്നീ പദങ്ങളൊന്നും കേട്ടിട്ടില്ലേ? ഇപ്പോള് ജനിച്ചു വീഴുന്ന കുട്ടികള് പോലും ഇതും, ഇതിലും മുറ്റിയ സാധനങ്ങളുടെ മറവില് ആണ് web'ല് കിടന്ന് അര്മ്മാദിക്കുന്നത്, Anyway ഞാന് descent ആണ് കേട്ടോ... ഈ സംവിധാനങ്ങളുടെ ഒന്നും മറയില്ലാതെ നേരിട്ട് Google'ല് log-in ചെയ്തു തന്നെയാണ് comments ഇടുന്നത്. താങ്കള് Technology'യുടെ മറുവശം ഉപയോഗിച്ച് എന്തു വേണമെങ്കിലും ആയിക്കോളൂ.. സന്തോഷം.
ഇനിയിപ്പോള് അണ്ണന് ഒരു പരാതി സമര്പ്പിച്ച് പോലീസ് ഏമാന്മാര് വന്നു എന്റെ Laappi എടുത്തോണ്ട് പോയി postmortem ചെയ്താലും വരമൊഴിയും, തീക്കുറുക്കനും അല്ലാതെ അതില് ദേശവിരുദ്ധമായും വ്യക്തിഹത്യയായും യാതൊന്നും കിട്ടുകയില്ല, എന്നല്ല എന്റെ കയ്യില് ഇല്ല തന്നെ.
ഈ ബ്ലോഗില് ഞാന് എന്റെ അഭിപ്രായങ്ങള് പറഞ്ഞെന്നേ ഉള്ളൂ... അത് തെറ്റ് ആണോ സൂ....???
"Mask" എന്നൊക്കെ ഉച്ചത്തില് വിളിച്ചു കൂകുന്നുണ്ടല്ലോ, സ്വന്തം profile നൊക്കിയിട്ടു തന്നെയാണോ ഈ ഗീര്വാണം? സ്വന്തം മുഖമ്മൂടി അഴിച്ച് വച്ചിട്ട് പോരേ മറ്റുള്ളവരുടെ മോന്തക്കു മാന്തുന്നത്?
"A general comment" എന്നു പേരിട്ട് ഓലപ്പാമ്പിനെ കാണിച്ച് പേടിപ്പിക്കല്ലേ... Sood വെറും sod വേലകള് ഇറക്കല്ലേ. അയ്യേ അയ്യേ...
@ Zoo,
There is a famous saying,
"Never teach your Grand dad how to____."
@ manushyaputhran,
people's culture will reflect in all their words and actions. Though I dint understand most of your words, I expected it in this way itself! that is how you are molded!
Manushyaputhra, I am unaware of the technological aspects to your mark. Sorry man!:p Would you please teach me through this blog space itself?
You can fill the unfilled statement in the last comment too. :) Since I am not aware of most of the "very famous sayings", I dint get what you mean!
@ Manushyaputhran
manushyaputhra, I knw only very famous so called "varamozhees"! For example, i know at least one. "kognaathan"! or is it comes under the so called "thikkurukkan". Hope people of your cult is undergoing through some training to be a certified "Varamozhiyan"/"thikkurukan" etc.. Best wishes man. I really wish, one day, you will come out from your dyslexy.
Dear Rahul, yes, I am aware of policies of current politics.
I don’t have a biased political stand though. I have defined my own policies. Yes, might be a mixture of all. I used to cherish and appreciate the good leaders (if any) and good people regardless of their caste/creed/political stand etc. All religious books(so called) are good. All those books contain good lessons and moral. In the same way, all the religions (so called) are good. But “now” the badness is with the people who handle it. In the same way, all political parties’ root principles (most of the policies of all the parties) are good. But unfortunately we don’t have true leaders to guide and mold people properly. No true leaders to lead any party! Parties are formed for nation. But now the leaders are utilizing to nourish their own “so called” people or they are seeing people as vote banks. they are in a hurry to please the banks for their own advantage! No leader is for the nation! Every one is behind worldly pleasures….To achieve it, they need political power. They are fighting for it. They are utilizing people for it. They are applying hypocritical thoughts for it. They are not shameful to show case it too…In public speeches too they are exhibiting their own degree of greediness without any inhibition. To get the position they are going for their own methods, misleading people by giving wrong history…they are good in injecting poison in innocent dyslexic to follow them. The followers are not getting any chance for a second thought. Or they are not given any mental freedom to think individually. Now a crowd is molded in that way. They just can’t think and act. Their actions are predefined.:) Now too, a crowd in each party is ready to die for their own beliefs, but the thing is they are wrong in their beliefs. And any where in their vicinity the feel of “nation” is not included! Pity, I should say!!! They know only their own circle. They are informed only that much. They are living in that caves.
Rahul, as you told, really I don’t know when that time will come? When the people will unite for a common cause? When they will come out from their biased branded lights?? When they will come out from the manipulated histories of a great nation!! I really don’t know. But, I am there to support you...I there with you to ignite the light... to dream for a better nation...to work for it!
Jai hind!
സൂ: "manushyaputhra, I knw only very famous so called "varamozhees"! For example, i know at least one. "kognaathan"! or is it comes under the so called "thikkurukkan". Hope people of your cult is undergoing through some training to be a certified "Varamozhiyan"/"thikkurukan" etc.. Best wishes man."
"വരമൊഴി" is a software to convert Manglish to മലയാളം(unicode).
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Fantastic, Excellent, Terriffic... താങ്കളില് നിന്നു ഞാന് ഇത്രയൊക്കെയേ പ്രതീക്ഷിച്ചുള്ളൂ.
പിന്നെ, "മനുഷ്യപുത്രാ", Dyslexic" എന്നിങ്ങനെ രണ്ട് പേരുകള് ആവശ്യമില്ല, ചേട്ടന് Dyslexic ആണ് കൂടുതല് സൌകര്യമെങ്കില് അങ്ങനെ തന്നെ ആയിക്കോട്ടേ... ഒരു കല്ലെടുത്തുവച്ച് അതു നോക്കി കൃഷ്ണാ കൃഷ്ണാ.. എന്ന് ആയിരം തവണ ഉരുവിട്ടാലും അത് കല്ല് തന്നെയല്ലേ? കൃഷ്ണന് ആകില്ലല്ലോ... so, you carry on with your culture.
@ manushyaputhran,
Oh great.:p
If you yourself knw what you are, that is sufficient. do a better self analysis when ever you get time in your very busy schedule!
You yourself is proving what you are!
Try to come out from DYSLEXIA. or be there itself. :p Feel and see the things in your biased light.:) Do what ever you like.
Yes, of course i will continue with my culture. :)
Jai hind!
I'm what I'm.
Sood: "Feel and see the things in your biased light.:) Do what ever you like."
Thanks for your explicit permission.
@Manushyaputhran.
You are welcome.:p
It must hurt to every Indian to see such a FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. Being an Indian it hurted ME too. In reflection, i also expressed my FREEDOM in form of NUDE pictures of Mr.MFHusain and forwarded to many sites. If anyone is interested to see, can contact me on bgvir@indiatimes.com, to judge 'how GREAT artist also I am? and why i should not be felicited with any prestigeous award?'
Ms. Shilpa (or whatever you are),
If you have a little amount of brain, please STOP commenting. That's the request. B'coz your comments smell your some relation (probably BAD) with M.F.
@ Rahul, Sood, Manushyaputra,
There is this talk of 'Hindu unity' in some of the previous posts.
I have not come across the word 'Hindu' in our scriptures.
As I understand, that word was used by Persians to refer to the people living beside the river Indus.
So is 'Hinduism' not defined in any of our scriptures. My guess is that 'Hinduism' was coined by some Britisher.
By accepting to label ourselves as Hindu we begin to travel in paths untrodden by our ancestors- the sages who travelled this earth before us- and thus break away from our anscestors and make of ourselves orphans.
When we accept for ourselves a label that somebody else has given us, then we have to inevitably accept the definition they give us. And the definition they have chosen for us is definitely to suit them and in no way complementary to us. In their definition Sati, Child marriages, Caste oppression, bigotry, blind beliefs, superstitions, gender inequality, erotic sex, etc., are the customs that defines this 'religion' they call 'Hinduism'.
These customs, I do not find in our scriptures. What I find in our scriptures is everything opposite of what they have defined.
That being so, are we not doing a great disservice to ourself and the future generations if we call ourself by that name?
What I have come across in our scriptures is the sage calling himself as Brahma - ' Aham Brahmasmi', after achieving realisation. 'I am Brahma- the supreme universal power.'
Which is the exact opposite of what the westerner defines his religion ' Hinduism'.
The tendency to label and slot people is inherent in the western thought influenced by the church which views Bible/Quran as the sacrosanct word of God which implies that everything is pre-defined, labelled.
People who follow Christianity, Islam, Communism etc., have to per force label themselves because it is done so by their Church/belief system. They also have definition for those who are non-followers- kafirs/ pagans/ capitalist etc. Independent thought has no place in such system.
The thought system prevalent in India by contrast was very dynamic and self-regenerating. This thought process can never be understood by the majority of the westerner/christian/muslim/jew/communist.
But that should not stop us from appreciating the wealth that we have.
Nair, Ezhava, etc., are also not in our scriptures.
All our sages such as Sri Narayana Guru refused to accept such a system.
The only people who recognise it are apparently the British and those influenced by them.
It is intellectually liberating to refuse labels pasted upon us by others to suit their needs.
To the extent that it is deliberate insult to be called that name!
If at all we need identity for communal purposes(its not such a bad word!*), let it be the identity of being Indian- a citizen of India.
That the public consciousness accepts such labels indicates the extent to which the westerner occupies the intellectual landscape of our nation and the extent to which we have made ourselves Orphans- without ancestors!
*communal
–adjective 1. used or shared in common by everyone in a group: a communal jug of wine.
2. of, by, or belonging to the people of a community; shared or participated in by the public: communal land; Building the playground was a communal project.
3. pertaining to a commune or a community: communal life.
I'm a Hindu. I am not superstitious. In fact, I don't believe in anything supernatural. I don't care for religion/caste based organisations or leaders. I know I'm not alone in being a Hindu and atheist.
Some of this talk leads me to believe that you would like to disqualify people like me from being Hindus. :)
Full disclosure: I don't find the paintings offensive. Besides, taking offense has no place in intelligent, civilised discourse.
The two greatest obstacles in the development of humanity, not just Indians: religion and patriotism. Bonus question: Is there really any difference between the two?
really we shocked,
mf he is bastered... he try to destroying hindu comunity... like this type off roughs openlyhang/cut the head...
.......sadan
@Incognito
It is a way of life, often referred to as sanathana dharma...Whatever be the term you coined for it, it exists today too.Right? A group of people who believe "karma is their Dharma".
Have you ever read the caste oppression portion in any of the vedic books? In fact, the wrong translation had given by the intruders to apply their divide and rule policy. The Sanskrit books are translated by the wrong people in the wrong way. They realized the so called "ism" is a competing one for them in many ways and they want to oppress it in all means. So they utilized the opportunities properly. You please kindly quote the places where you find the reference for all the things you mentioned in vedic books! I can try helping you to understand the contexts better. I need the Sanskrit verses that you are referring to. Not any wrong translations! I can help you to understand it better!
@Sood,
Please read my earlier post again.
@Incognito
True!:)While i was going through the the first two paras i felt you too r going through the conventional path that is defined by intruders.:)
Good going Man!
this m.f hussain should be hanged in public..we hindus are coward really how cum a painter disgrace our gods...why didnt he painted prophet,mother mary in such poses...he did so with our hindu gods coz he knows WE HINDUS ARE IMPOTENTE...WE DONN DARE TO SPEAK FOR OUR RIGHTS...I FEEL SO SAD TO HAV BORN IN THIS COUNTRY...AND ITS SO DISGUSTING TO SEE THAT OUR MEDIA AND NEWS CHANNELS AND SO CALLED JOURNALISTS WHO THEMSELVES ARE HINDUS SUPPORT PEOPLE LIKE HIM....ITS NOT LATE NOW EVEN LETS GET UNITED AND TEACH LESSON TO PEOPLE WHO DISGRACE OUR GODS..WE HAV TO TAKE SUM STEPS OTHERWISE WORSE WILL HAPPEN..LETS PAINT THEIR PICTURES ALSO IN BAD TASTE.SHOW THEM WHAT ARE HINDUS...WE HAV TO GET OUT COZ SITTING AT HOMES AND WRITING BLOGS WILL NOT HELP..PLEASE HINDUS BE BRAVE DONT SIT LIKE IMPOTENTS AND LISTEN TO BAD THINGS SAID TO US...ITS TRHE YOUNG BLOOD ESPECIALLY YOUNG MEN WHO CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE,...AND SAY PROUDLY JAI SHRI SIYARAM
rahul, u r correct and u hv done a great job. Bharathamba,saraswathi devi,mahalakshi, sitamatha are the mothers of our nation, knowledge, wealth and sahana.. we worship them as our mother..who wish to see a nude mother? Hussain goes mad ...mad on sex... thats y..
Hi Rahul
I am not sure if this is the right way of contacting you. I appreciate your protest against M.F Hussain. But what I wanted to convey to you is about the controversy regarding allowing people of other faith (Muslims and Christians) into the guruvayoor temple. I am not a religious person but I think religious sentiments should be respected. Islam/Christianity believes that idol worship is some sin and they go to hell. If the temple authorities think people with such ideologies could cause damage to the temple's sanctity their ideology should be respected. Why would the temple want someone like M.F Hussain to enter into the temple? This is my piece about this. It would be great if you could also put a post about that controversy.
Thank you
Vibha
Watch this video, you will get an idea on how nudity represented in Indian culture
http://www.indiavideo.org/madhyapradesh/travel/temple-love-1173.php
Mr Rajan
Nudity is not the issue here. I do not want to come into an argument of atheism or theism here. Whatever your beliefs are "sensitivity" is important here. Liberals and Conservatives should respect it. Atheists and theists have different opinions and both of their opinions should be respected. Atheists have the right to question theists and so do theists. Different views can be debated. But sensitivity should respected. Questioning faith and beliefs can be done without hurting sentiments. Unlike the author of this post I do not think Taslima Nasreen did something wrong by questioning faith. But danish cartoons and drawings of M.F Hussain are just vulgar. Again not about nudity but showing Seetha having sexual feelings towards Hanuman is just disgusting. I always liked atheists who do not preach or force their faith unlike theists. But looking at many of the previous comments I am beginning to think even atheists are following the footsteps of theists by preaching and forcing that there is no god.
Well done Rahul!!!!
Go ahead. The whole nation will be in your support soon...
We must not allow this vulgarity to our society.
People like M.F. Hussain also seek the pubilicity & adopt this easy way to get it. Our media is also offender because everytime it supports this kind of people in the name of freedom.....
Pinkalkumar M
Rajan Sir, is conciously lying.
I HAVE TOLD HIM A 100 TIMES, THAT NUDITY IS NOT THE ISSUE.
At first I thought he didnt get my point, later I understood he is deliberately being deaf. You can wake up a sleeping person, you can never wake up the one who is pretending to sleep.
Rajan Sir, Aap Jago na Jago, Hamara Desh tho Zaroor Jagega.
Vande Mataram
Rahul >>>NUDITY IS NOT THE ISSUE.
It is.
Commented here- http://satyameva-jayate.org/2006/02/08/mf-husain-apologises/comment-page-1/#comment-31492
solidarity !!
Good man.. very good work ..
Why don't you start a website to highlight these issues ?
Bharath matha ki jai ...
Jai hind.
shockin....not a single true indian wud tolerate this....he has no rite to be called an indian....i feel ashamed even to mension him....
I am a man. I am tolerant, but abuses, never! How can is possible that indian secularists support this new Bin Laden? I tell you Hussain, no Mr. Hussain, go to pakistan, saudi arabia, koweit,afghanistan, etc! Go and never put your feet in This Sacred Indian Land! Present your pictures(?)in those countries. Ah Ah, you will see...
I am shocking, yet, with this guy that is like a hidden demon. Look at him, and, you people, saw the soul of this Hussain. Arise oh India. Secularism is very danger for you. We are tolerants. They are not tolerants: Christians, Jewish and Muslims, because their god is the only one. These religions fight between them, since, at least 500 years. What tolerance? Only money,lust and war. These guys are very danger to Mankind. Hussain, not Mr. Hussain, is a pawn without soul,a waiter of the power behind those religions(?). Bharat-India is a Land of Real Freedom! Are there real freedom in pakistan,in arab saudi,in koweit, and other muslim countries?
mr.V.P.Rajan sir is as always pretending to be blind in the clear day light.
yesterday,our forefathers may have roamed the world nude...and for that will he keep the tradition?
.....we call it...
"utharam muttumbol...
konjanam kuthuka!"
when they see all these protests,those pseudo secularists feel a sense of impending doom..a feeling that the 'once and for all divided' hindu community is going to be united under a common roof...atleast the educated ones.that means the ones who go around india criticising Modi and silent on Nandigram,the ones who protest against Saddam's execution,but keep mum on 9/11,the ones who protest moral policing at mangalore,but tight lipped on rights of muslim women...are going to be exposed...in clear daylight.they all need is an atrocity commited by a hindu...human rights for them is only for the minority communities,and that too only in india.now onwards,things are going to be difficult for them.
hussain is not a great artist,even some pseudo-secularists agree...but the protest against his nude pictures is because they are given unwanted publicity as they are hurting a real hindu believer and he is being exhibited everywhere as a victim of hindu atrocities..THIS MUST STOP!
If you don't appreciate art or artistes, stay away from the art. You are not forced to see the paintings are you?
Of course, one is free to criticise Hussein. But to ransack his paintings, exhibitions and issuing death threats to him is the equivalent of barbarism -- something we saw in Hampi and Bamiyan.
अगर शिल्पा अपनी और अपनी मोम की पिक्चर म.फ हुसैन (कुत्ता) को दे दे तो वो इसके परिवार की पेंटिंग बना देगा ऐसे ही
जो भी म.फ हुसैन की तरफ से बोल रहे हैं वो अपने घर की लड़कियों की पेंटिंग बनवा सकते है
I dare the PSEUDO INTELLECTUALS TO ANSWER.
IF ART IS TOTALLY FREE
WHY DID CPIM SECRETARY PRAKASH KARAT TOOK A STAND WHICH SUPPORTED MUSLIMS GROUPS WHEN THEY PROTESTED about Propthet Mohammed (pbuh) paintings. Is art not art
WHY DID CPIM BENGAL GOVT throw out TASLIMA NASREEN FROM BENGAL...IS ART AND LITREATURE NOT THERE?
BUT WHEN HUSSAIN PAINTS "RAPE OF INDIA" no one is bothered.
Just because the Majority is peaceful and silent, DOnt think they are weak and voiceless.
AND there is no Minority reservations for Gods.
Vande Mataram
REPLY TO RENJITH TIMES :
eda renjith naire nee nair alla naaya aanu .etho thendi upekshicha pandakettile santhathi..u think that u become great personality by uttering great art theories art should be used for societies uplifting not degrading .u r mother and u r sister has the same retro style breasts dear...do try to draw that and see what happens as u r an artist it will be sen as freedom of expression dear...
there is no excuse to him!!
kill him that bastard
good work rahul keep it up people like me are always there with you....
he was an 'artist' till i read this...nomore frm now onwards...i should search someother word to describe him...******
I am a doctor and habituated to see nude because that is part of my job. Though they call me that I am a Hindu but I think , I am just a good Human being. Because if I am not a human being, I could neither be a good hindu, nor a good muslim, nor a good christian, nor anything else that one may think of. Today, religion has become a good cheap business like politics. That is why, there is so much of chaos and vanity in the name of one thing or the other. Hussain is a very sanctified name in Islam, as I believe, has he proved himself worth the name? I think, he is a blot to the very religion he may be advocating. Loss is his, so the hindus has all the more to rejoice as he himself is denigrading himself, his very religion, his motherland if he claims to be an Indian. I should say that cudos to him. He should carry on his mission of
(...)grading himself and his posterity will take care of him. I can bet, not even a single Muslim will come to his rescue when his time will come. Good, bad or ugly: all have their time.
I bless him with grace or disgrace he deserves.
Hussain, please carry on your good work like the Talibans in Bahamiyan. Hussain will take care of you.
This is Shocking.I am an Indian,before being anything else,and this is something that I can never agree with.Hussain has no right to live in India.He is lunatic.either throw him to a mental hospital or throw him out of India.
@Rahul,
Brother,Im an Indian,and everything else is second to my concern for my motherland.We need to stand for our country.Pls remove the picture of burning my national flag.I cant see this any more.IF I EVER see anyone doing this in front of me,I swear,I will prevent it,giving my life.Pls remove this pic.
My name is Sony Thomas and i am a citizen of India from kerala. It's very painful truth of Hinduism that M.F. Hussein painted on his canvas.
Which dignity you all are talking about?
Why you all are not talking about the communal harmony about Christians faced by Hindu activist in Orissa. When your Hindu brothers raped the Nun in Orissa and when they raped Muslim women in Gujarat and you are talking about women respect. When he painted the naked picture of your mother goddess then why you are taking it so serious. Now you all are awakened. Tum Christian aur Muslim aurton ka rape karo who sahi aur agar dusre karein toh ghalat. Go and ask first with your Hindu Terrorsist organisations of V.H.P, BAJRANGDAL, RSS. Then make any comment about your god mother and Sita as sexual maniac. In india all religion are same and you must give the same respect to other religions ok dear Rahul. and don't try to make the clash between the religions. Everyone have the freedom to express there thoughts. M.F. Hussain is one of them>>
Ha ha ha haaa>>>
The Indian Culture: The Truth of Hinduism
Dear Ranjan,
I watched the video and there is the shameless erotic sculptures are there.
All the devi and devas are in sexual and erected mood.
Before writng anything about M.F. HUSSAIN they must see the fact of there culture and heritage and must visit the khajuraho mandir.
Which dignity you all are talking about?
The significance of erotic sculptures in the Khajuraho temples has been interpreted in many ways. Some regard them as representations mirroring the lax moral standards of contemporary society.
For some others, these are the illustrations of erotic postures mentioned in the ancient text, Kamasutra, which is regarded as the classical treatise on lovemaking and sex activities and positions.
However, the mostly accepted view is that these sculptures symbolize the concept of Erotic Sex love. According to this, sexual act is a blend of Yoga and Bhoga in Hinduism and physical pleasure. Enjoyment of senses was seen as an easier way to salvation.
However, such representations are the finest sculptural composition, which vibrate with a rare sensitivity and warmth of emotions.
Why you are not talking when your Hindu brothers raped the Nun in Orissa and when they raped Muslim women in Gujarat and you are talking about women respect. When he painted the naked picture of your mother goddess then why you are taking it so serious.
Go khajuraho mandir and see there. the fact.
Tum Christian aur Muslim aurton ka rape karo woh sahi aur agar doosre karein toh ghalat.
Naked hona toh hinduism show karta hi hai, jaisa ke ooper likh chuka hoon aur ja kar dekh lo.
Beta Rahul M.F. Hussain ne jo kia woh sahi kiya, Main uske saath hoon. Everyone has the freedom to express there thoughts.
I am with M.F. Hussain, Jo karna hai karle.
Rahul Dear
Hindu aur Muslim ke naam par cheap kaam karna chhod do. Tum jaise log hi divide aur clash karwate hain.
Phir hamein bhi majboori mein ulti seedhi batein batane aur tum logon ko mirror dikhana padta hai.
Tum log wahi Hindu ho na jo paise kamane ke liye Muslim countries mein jaate hain aur phir India aa kar apni ramayan sunate hain.
Tum logon ko sharam nahin aati Muslim ka khana khate ho, Gulf countries ka aur phir muslim ka issue saamne laate ho.
Tum logon ki yehi ek fitrat rahi hai ke jis thali mein khaya usi mein moot kar chal diye.
Rahul na to humlogon ka zamane ne kutch bigada hai aur na kisi mein itna dam hai ke mera kutcch ukhaad sake.
Kyon Gulf countries mein kaam karne ke liye jaate hain kya hamare desh mein unke liye khane ke liye nahin hai. Such toh yeh hai ke unhein pasie chahye zyada isliye khud ko sheikhon ko parosti hain aur yahan nation ka raag alapti hain.
Shameful Hinduism
rahul, i'm saneer, friend of nikhil.i do watch ur protest against m.f huassain and it is no doubt that he is fanning the flame of revolt against hindus and muslims.we should not allow creatures like him to do so.it may affect the unity of our country.
In a civilized society every people should have freedom to express his . We as indias should not be like Pakistan or china where people can not express their freedom.
But when a society give us the freedom we also need to understand its meaning and its limitation.
The freedom that our society give to us can not be used to insult the society back. Mr. M. F Husin may be a big artist but he is not a good citizen. Law of land is, if any person do not know the limitation of his or her freedom, put him in jail. Unfortunately he is from Muslim community ..but its applicable for all......if any artist do some art insulting Muslim sentiment... i hope any muslim friend will also support me.
So, it is better to key away such people ...better for us..
blody begger hussain u come south side we are all fuck you on the centre road bastrard
dear sony,
you were vocal when it came to raping a nun in orissa,but where were you when a nun was killed[or probably .....] in a christian convent in kerala.where is your humanity and compassion?
Mr hussain Ne Thik kia...Humlog apni Dharm ke lie Kya karte hai.......Hum Hindu ka Rape ho raha hai....Hum log Muslims ki tera Strong nehi hai...Agar Ye Koi Anti-Islamic Pic Draw karta to Uska Gardan Dhar se alag ho jata..But humlog Hindu Sir Nehi katenge but Gali denge.......
thanks a lot Rahul.One man army? .No .We are all with you .Praying to get more courage
Jai Seetha Ram Jai Hanuman
JaiMa kali
great and valuable Mr Rahul........ we need persons like you to react towards this bloody seculars...........
DEAR FRIENDS....THIS SONY is fake. He is neither a Christian nor interested in communal harmony. HE IS A COMMUNIST....We can decipher from the arguments he make. A true Christian can never make and YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED EVEN THE CHURCH was moderate when it came to Orissa incidents.
AND DEAR SONY...WHERE WERE You when 3.5 lakh Kashmiri Hindus were thrown out of Kashmir 120 girls were raped....3.5 Lakh remember...Where were you when Communists cheated India and became traitors when our Brave Soldiers defended our borders in 1962 war with China. THIS IS A CLASSIC CASE OF F A K E IDENTITY AND CREATING COMMUNAL TENSION AND BRANDING 'ALL RELIGIONS ARE BAD'
Dear SONY...these are old numbers...cheap too
MY POSITION IS VERY CLEAR
"SRI PRAKASH KARAT said in The Cartoon controversy "All Secular parties should condemn Danish cartoons as they insult Islamic community and no section should be offended"
That is my stand in Hussain case too. That was CPM stand in Taslima's case
AND PLS GO TO KHAJURAHO once. pls understand what it means. We dont object 8th standard text book where nude diagrams are given. the context is different is Hussain. TELL ME IS RIGHT TO PAINT "RAPE OF INDIA", Vulgar and naked Bharatmatha....Pls dont be purposefully offensive..and if you dont respect India, I will be forced to ask..Dont you too have a mother and sister.
Hindus are provoked :
By trying to bring Mr.M.F.Hussein back to India from Dubai, UPA or it’s mastermind Sonia wants to pitt the Hindu sentiments against Muslims. This is a carefully organised ploy started today by our TV channels (mouthpiece of Soniaji). My appeal to all Hindus is that none of us should react. We should fail the mission of Sonia to launch hatred on the Hindu minds towards Mr.Hussein. The highest punishment that the Hindus could give to Mr.Hussein is to let him feel himself the sin that he has committed. The entire history of the Indian civilisation has lots of stories about Asuras provocating Devas and the misdeeds of Asuras towards Devaas. In all these instances, Devaas have not fought violently against the Asuras, but have sought the help of Almighty and this is exactly what the Hindus have to do. Any violent reaction from Hindus by means of violence will strengthen the cunning desires of the UPA. If Mr.Hussein has painted Hindu Godesses in the most absurd way, then God (or Dharma – the rule of universe) will punish him.
UPA has also started activities to provide clemency to Mohammad Afzal and even for this; we should not react and make it an issue. UPA wants BJP to take up these issues and get a bad name among the Muslims. Let the UPA which has a mandate upto 2014 do whatever it wants to do. If the Hindus don’t react for both of these incidents, UPA would be surprised and they would have failed in their bad intentions. Spread this message as much as we can.
We are all supporting the BJP and why do we do this ? Is it because BJP would do anything in favour for the Hindus ? No, we believe that they would do justice for all Indians irrespective of their faith. Today, we do not have Righteous people governing us and we expect that the BJP would balance their actions to provide justice for all.
Why should BJP morally support the Hindus on the Ram Janmabhoomi issue ? My answer is :
Greater India was partitioned to provide a separate country for the Muslims and Paksitan was carved out of it. The remaining part of greater India could have been declared a Hindu country, but it was only proclaimed as a Secular nation accepting the diversities of India. The BJP believes that the majority of Indians, (read Hindus) deserve the credit for upholding Secularism in this country, The Hindus did not bother to elect people like Mr.M.Karunanidhi to higher posts, who has done during his lifetime all possible atrocities against Hindus. The Hindus never looked at the faith of Ms.Sonia when she was elected to the top position of the country’s major political party. The Hindus should not be termed Communal just because some have resorted to violence when provoked, as they are the backbone and upholders of Secularism in India. Jammu and Kashmir is the only Muslim majority state of India and Secularism has no value there. The reason told by the separatists in J & K for their “Azaadi movement” is that they don’t feel secure in Hindu majority India. This is great insult to the Secular values practised by the Hindus. Is it not one classic example of why Hindus deserve credit for upholding secularism in India. The BJPs support to the Ram Janmaboomi cause was only to strengthen the Secularism of India.
Let the Hindus speak only with the ballots and not with weapons or violence. Let the UPA fail in its mission of pitting the BJP or Hindus against the Muslims.
we have to kill that blady islamik....
jai bhaarath...
we have to kill that blady islamik....
jai bhaarath...
"child who cry will get the milk" its time for us hindus to unite....Rahulji u ar face of the nation ....go a head with ur mission to unite hindus ....Also i heard UPA doing best to bring back MF hussain.... Pity on my govenment and we hindus choose the same ....
Rahul Eshwarji i heard abut Hindu arliment coming at january....its good initiative ar u behind its coordination ....does it include all sect of hindus irrespective of caste and region..... wat is the motto of such organization.....good initiative go a head
Rahul Eshwarji i heard abut Hindu parliment coming at january....its good initiative ar u behind its coordination ....does it include all sect of hindus irrespective of caste and region..... wat is the motto of such organization.....good initiative go a head
dear sir
in kerala communists r problrm and hindus r not united and jihad love is active so wat r hindu orgns steps to solve this problems
i am getting doubt do these gals have common sense leaving this great culture and entering into that pigs drainage.
ys i too have same curiosity as akula....
love jihad is spreading do any organization doing anything to counter it....From tommorow Ramakrishna mission is organizing some event at GURUVAYOOR to educate hindus abut importance of several activites...i don't know much .... any way similarly some organization should also take initiative to counter love jihad.... BE SECUALR NOT SIKULAR....
@ Rama_Bangalore
well said but u ar asking to keep mum on issues like Hussain , Afzal , Later Kasab will also walk out and become indian citizen .... then wat will u ask us to do keep mum again.... Taliban is going to target India they know that even if terrorists ar caught they will get VIP treatment....
I support ur View there is something hidden agenda with UPA in bringing back Hussain....
Because most of indians have not yet seen his works on godess and Bharat Matha ..... hence if bjp protest against him congress will play communal card telling people that Hussain is great human BJP rejects him because he is muslim since most of indians have not seen his dirty works all will fall pray to UPA's trap also channels like CNN_IBN will add fuel to fire by backing hussain and congress....
But that doesn't mean that Hussain should be allowed to enter Perhaps this is the time when we need good leadership to tackle this problem i think leaders like Modiji or our Rahul Eshwarji can do something i hope so....
Also for all those who think GUjarat muslims hate modi here is the news .... Gujarat muslims doing mass prayer to help modiji cure from swine flue
http://www.ptinews.com/news/355718_Muslims-offering-prayers-for-Narendra-Modi-s-recovery
let our SEUDO- secualr kerala also come to know this...
Rahulji well picture ar shocking but how many indians might have come to see this.... to be frank i had earlier heard that hussain draw nude god/godess but didn't knew he used sex in them ..... thats the question how many indians know wat this publlicity seeking person has done by drawing nude and sex in his paintings....He hate hindus that is the truth .... or else he would not have hurted our sentiments....
May saraswati bless this hussain
M. F. Hussain ko sare aam faansi pe latkana chahiye.....
I Just want to kill mf hussain.Please inform me when he come to India.Bloody religious fellow shame for muslims first and we should not tolerate these kind of activities.Kill him definetly India should hang him 100000000000000000 times for his evil activities on our Gods.Jai Hind
its right rahul bhaay..... he is one of our greatest painters, but he did the "WORSEST" thing. its not the freedom of expression, its really the violation of freedom.
i am shocked to read this
Dont shock! This is the uptime to act..! If we forgot to act we lose life..India..Hindu Dharma..every thing that makes india differ from otherss..
Please ask the supreme court and prey to god to hang & kill Kusasin the great rowdy & paint terrorist within in .... days of this comment...
the only way to protect india is to oust sonia & congress who ruled over 60 years & demolished india through poverty,corruption,unemployment & act against women etc..
select atleast BJP for now..make Modi as PM of india for 30 years surely indian tradational heritage will be protected..india will bocme super power to world...
Its really a shocking truth..Great work u have done rahul....
How can he potrait like this he is also having mother & sister why did he has not painted them in nude, iam really hurted because he has painted our Bhartha Mata, he should be punished seriously
Dear frnds,
why all u r crtitsisng each other and getting excited to tell all these words. I m challenging how many r there they truely aware of what is Hindhu and their culture. All are just doing somthing here in blog . R they really excited by hurting of our cultural symbols. R they aware about what the indicates?......A stupid person such as Hussain can never hurt our culture if we knows really what we are.. It never be destroyed even in a single point by such a neuisances who s blind about this culture. I m sure that person who studied bhagavat Geeta and executed in hihs real life will never be change by hearing this waste activities. Be careful to grasp our great culture which accepting all other religions & casts. Dont mada him great by talking about him as he will be here forever as a dog....This is time to get up and think about what we can do..???????......Comments will not make any changes on practical life...
god bless u man....
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